honestly i feel like a lot of ppl missed the point and just blindly agreed w/ vriska on the candy timeline's "fakeness". like. hmm (rambles)
this post from fefairys is a nice way of putting it: homestuck doesn't like to say things are just one way. if anything the john + vris convo is just a summary of the entire point of the epilogues: both scenarios are equally possible and equally real, bc to the ppl who live them, they r real. maybe one is the technically "right" timeline, but they both exist concretely, because what goes on in one affects the other.
vriska is partially right, but so is john. the timeline is wrong, but it's not fake.
that's the power of hope! not that sort of hope, i mean this hope. the one that has the ability to believe so hard in something, it becomes real. like an imaginary version of your ex-boyfriend. or an alternate timeline. where rage cries out against implausible things, pushing it back with force, hope imagines things so hard they warp reality around them just to exist (think adam from good omens). it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to be held up by enough people believing in it.
the characters of the candy timeline believe that they are real, and so they are. you could make the same argument for the score of doomed timelines that riddle much of regular homestuck honestly. im a bit jumbled but yea. food for thought
uno night!
the embodiment of freedom
in the meat timeline, they lost the embodiment of breath, the aspect of freedom, thus the narrative binds them to the narrators wishes, twisting them to his desires
in the candy timeline, they lost the embodiment of heart, the aspect of the soul. they lose their sense of self, becoming more and more detached from who they are as a person
There's something interesting to be said about the page class in homestuck.
Of course, we have the title definiton of the page. Serving as an understudy to royalty to become great. But we could also take from Jake English’s introduction himself to consider what a page might particularly be:
There is a good SKULL at the heart of any mystery, haunting its EVERY PAGE.
A page, like an empty page in a book. Lacking in anything written on it, but by being a page, given the utmost to have anything, anything written on it. That page could be anything if you learn to harness a pen.
We could speculate that we see the potential of a page in the scratched versions, in this case The Summoner, or Grandpa Harley. This is presuming they carry the same aspects as Tavros and Jake English respectfully.
Grandpa Harley and The Summoner play incredibly influential and important roles on their respective planets by shaping the way their worlds were shaped. Grandpa Harley translated and prototyped the SBURB game for the Beta Kids, set up SKAIANET, which documented the meteors and created tech to bring SBURB to reality, as well as taking care of one of the meteor children and guiding her research to further reach their goal. The Summoners revolution against the condesce is so large, it leads to the exile of all adult trolls to outerspace and away from the planet, which shapes how the trolls that would play SGRUB think and react.
We never see it addressed all that directly other than passing, even though it plays a major part in the story because at the end of the day, a page is a medium for conveying thought, for conveying words, but a page is never the full front and center.
And really its sort of fitting how it comes back to the fact that pages,to quote caliborn, "HAVE TO PROVE THEY ARE WORTHY TO EXIST." Because what use is an empty page! Its just another piece of paper. You can coax and threaten all you like but the words will not appear magically on the page making it a masterpiece. A page draws its importance from whats written on it, like how a page draws its power through other people.
you; have to understand that everyone in homestuck is a girl and everyone in homestucj is a boy. Adn also eceryone in homestuck is mnot a girl and also everyone in himestuck is not a boy and everyone is nonbinary also. you Understand. rebnlog
i had these funni videos recommended to me and once the homestuck rot in my brain picked up on some dave coding— i couldn’t help myself ↓↓
↑↑ rewfewence CartierKy (TheCartierKy) on youtube
↓↓ the aftermath of making a landing that literally blows everyone away (haHA sorry) ↓↓
get team rocket’d rip
her whack-a-mole game go deadly
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