POV: Loki When He Met Mobius At The TVA

listen… i’ve never posted anything on tumblr but i have to say this…

WHY TF WOULD MARVEL TEASE LOKI BEING BI IF THEY WEREN’T GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!

Like i would get it if he had a female love interest and didn’t say anything about him swinging both ways BUT they didn’t.

Please make lokius real marvel. they are keeping me afloat rn 💀💀💀

I noticed you seemed interested in my Lokius roleplay post. I have a couple of plots that I posted too. Would you like to roleplay with me? If not, that's totally fine.

Hey! I don’t think so. Thank you for offering though!

oh my god. he got me down BAD

Another picture of Owen in Mexico. A better look at his pink suit 😍

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yk i think the reason the Loki finale left me with such a sick feel in my stomach was because in the last scene we see Loki, me doesn’t even look like himself. he looks so sad and miserable. he doesn’t look like the happy, sarcastic person we got to see in the rest of the series. it made me so upset to know how sad he is 😢

Reparenting Loki

I want to talk about a dynamic in the Loki/Mobius relationship (in the Loki TV-series) that I've seen touched on but not really discussed in depth.

Note to Lokius-lovers: nothing I say here in any way precludes a healthy romantic relationship. They're both consenting adults, after all, and this wasn't a formal therapist-client relationship.

There's a technique in therapy called "reparenting". The idea is that trauma and behaviors caused by bad parenting can be addressed to some extent if the therapist assumes the role of a "good parent".

I think we can all agree that the "All-Father" was crap as an actual father. Odin knew that Loki took after him even more than Thor did, but many of those shared traits were things that he tried to hide from everyone, while Thor better represented the image he wanted to project. The result was a cruel favoritism, which was picked up by Thor and the rest of the Asgardians. Frigga's love and support wasn't enough to counteract that cruelty, particularly in a strongly patriarchal society like Asgard.

Side note (because I'm that kind of geek): there were so many similarities between Odin and Loki (Odin's friend and blood-brother rather than his son) in the old Norse myths that some scholars have suggested that Loki was at one point simply an aspect of Odin. There's also evidence that the stories as they came down to us were manipulated by the Christians who committed them to writing to shoehorn Loki into something more like the Christian Devil.

Anyway, getting back to our guys... Within the context of the TVA, Mobius represented an authority figure to Loki, who had a long history of rebelling against (or betraying) authority for obvious reasons.

I think the first turning point in the relationship for Loki was:

Loki: I am smart!

Mobius: I know. Loki is rarely left speechless, but his only response to Mobius's simple affirmation was a very un-Loki-like "Okay..." He didn't know how to respond because he wasn't used to that kind of thing, particularly from someone who had power over him. It happened again with:

Loki: A villain.

Mobius: That's not how I see it.

The dynamic between these two people throughout Season 1 was like that. Mobius's genuine love (whether you read it as romantic, platonic, fatherly, brotherly, or a mix of any or all of these) for and non-judgmental acceptance of Loki was apparent from the start, but of course Loki's experiences during his very long lifetime made it nearly impossible for him to trust that until Mobius's actions convinced him that it was real. Learning to trust Mobius also allowed Loki to see himself in a new light.

For his part, Mobius consistently modeled what a good father would have been: loving and accepting, yes, but still able to apply "tough love" when that was warranted. Mobius didn't put Loki into the bad-memory loop to punish him because he was angry (though he was angry, or at least a bit hurt and disappointed). He was just trying to force Loki to acknowledge a truth about himself so that they could move forward — and it worked!

Mobius's instincts and experience as an actual father to two boys, one reasonably well-behaved and the other a mischievous troublemaker, served him well in this, even if he didn't consciously remember his life on the timeline.

Mobius all but confirmed this when he said:

Mobius:  I see a scared little boy, shivering in the cold... 

It's also significant that when Loki brought this up later, he called it "patronizing", which we usually use to mean "condescending", but can also mean "supporting" and has its root in the Latin word "pater" (father).

I see the hug in episode 1-5 as a sign that the reparenting had taken hold, and that Loki, while not completely healed (it would take a lot more than that!), was at least in a place where he could trust someone, accept love/friendship, and think beyond his own wants and needs.

By Season 2, the relationship between the two men was evolving into one of equals, but even then Loki still occasionally looked to Mobius for guidance. Mobius's approval had become important to him. When Loki witnessed the firm but compassionate way in which Don dealt with two boys who were so like himself and Thor (despite being a stressed-out single dad rather than a god-king with tremendous resources at his disposal), he had to have seen that this was at the core of who Mobius was. Moreover, Loki — and any viewers who had similarly survived a traumatic childhood full of emotional abuse and neglect — probably guessed that Don himself was a survivor who was determined to see to it that his boys would never have to deal with that. If that was the case, then Mobius didn't just see his own son in Loki. He saw himself and couldn't help but empathize.

Don wasn't perfect. His frustration with his younger son was very evident, but Loki, observing, could see the love that lay under it. He may even have thought of times when Odin was driven to anger by Loki's actions and realized that the anger didn't necessarily mean that Odin didn't really love him. Learning to forgive what can be forgiven is another aspect of recovering from childhood trauma.

It's worth remembering that Mobius knew Loki in much the same way we do. We got to see the things that Loki never let anybody see: the fear, the vulnerability, the pain, the longing, and the sadness. (Doesn't hurt that TH can turn a simple reaction shot into a freakin' soliloquy!) The difference is that, while we only get to see the highlights (and lowlights) of Loki's life, Mobius had access to all of it and he had centuries to study it.

Mobius literally knew Loki better than anyone else in (or out) of the multiverse. How could he not love him? And for Loki, knowing that somebody who knew him that well genuinely cared so much for him (same with Sylvie, who understood him in ways that only another Loki could and vice-versa) had to have shaken him to his core and made him rethink a lot of things. The fact that it was Mobius to whom Loki turned in episode 2.6 when he thought he might have to kill Sylvie shows how much he still looked up to Mobius in many ways.

This was a show about redemption, yes, but also about healing from childhood trauma. They did an amazing job with it.

god they are killing me. they are so adorable

Owen Wilson: "You and I kind of talked about, you know, what kind of makes for a meaningful work experience, and of course enjoying the people that you work with, feeling that you're kind of doing something interesting; and then if you feel it has a chance to connect with an audience and it'll get a good reception. So I definitely felt that from you guys tonight." 🥹

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Loki (TV 2021) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Loki/Mobius M. Mobius, Frigga | Freyja & Loki (Marvel) Characters: Loki (Marvel), Mobius M. Mobius, Frigga | Freyja (Marvel) Additional Tags: Singer Loki (Marvel), Mentioned Odin (Marvel), Good Parent Frigga (Marvel), Loki Loves Mobius M. Mobius, Mobius M. Mobius Loves Loki, Fluff, Comfort, Happy Loki (Marvel), Protective Frigga (Marvel), Self-Indulgent Summary:

Loki and Mobius have moved on from the TVA. They now live on Midgard and Loki is letting his artistic talent shine. He has become a singer and Mobius supports him every step of the way.

Frigga can feel Loki’s presence on Midgard and decides to investigate. Her curiosity leads her to a bar in the middle of downtown London. When she walks in she hears Loki’s voice and sees him singing on the stage with a band.

literally them

omg guys so tomorrow the next episode of loki is officially dropping but i can’t watch it until saturday 😭😭😭

im gonna have to wait 2 days to see if these old men fuck.

this is my last post before seeing if lokius is endgame because i’m gonna be off of socials until i watch it. wish me luck everyone to avoid spoilers.

lastly, MARVEL PLEASE JUST LET THEM BE TOGETHER OR AT LEAST DONT LET SYLKI BE TOGETHER

also me rn

this scene made me so sad. i was like FUCK SYLVIE.

our poor baby 😢