As someone who has been on cheetehZ projects I completely agree with that Anon. People are allowed to like the MAPs and participating in them I don’t care but I’m shocked how more people don’t take issue with this. Especially since cheetah is now asking for donations just for map lore information (with a large following of children too). Not even art commissions. Everyone in the server is pretty much working for him. You can say it’s volunteer based as much as you want but it doesn’t address the social pressures people feel to keep up with something that’ll get you clout.
I’ve hosted maps in the past, and have noticed how the “CCU” has starved the MAP ecosystem. It was a community where you join maps and then create your own map and then in turn those people that made the projects you joined would join your projects. Instead everything revolves around how cheetah runs his maps. When people who join your maps are also in a cheetah map it wont matter when your deadline is, the cheetah project always gets priority. Everyone is always working on something in the cheetah server that nobody has time to work on anything else. It’s really rough when you are trying to get your own project done and backups are silent. That or your participants are ghosting you while being active in the cheetah server after multiple announcements.
Cheetah projects are essentially made by other people at this point for his gain. All cheetah is now is the guy with ideas. Everyone else is working for him and making set designs, storyboards, character designs, props, call art, thumbnails etc. Hollyfawn wasn’t even fully scripted! It’s quite literally a studio. Which wouldn’t be a problem if people were compensated for their time. A finished MAP in the past was that compensation but for huge projects like these that have a whole pre production stage it’s insane that a single person has hundreds of people literally working for him like this. And if someone drops there’s always someone to pick up you are literally just a worker. It just doesn’t feel right.
If you have a part that’s not a huge story beat you just don’t matter, you get the project finished but all these maps rely on the huge dramatic parts with insane animation. That’s how they get the excitement up and views in. And these parts are usually given infinite amount of time to finish without collaborating as well. I don’t have any issue with people who do use their talents to make some great parts my issue is just with cheetah and the rest of the council. How things are ran and how so many small things contribute to a greater issue here of circling people around you for your own gain just because people also like your stories doesn’t make it less insane. MAPs work as a small group project. Not as a studio. If this is how you run things it should be promoted more as something like warrior cats animated or something similar. Because now everyone is trying to follow the cheetah model and it just does not work.
This hardly scratches the surface. People can do as they please but we can’t pretend like it isn’t suffocating the rest of the community.
He probably did like it too
just random bits I felt like doodling, big brother sonic and Silver getting used to non-apocalypse conditions
I will fucking strangle Bramblestar with my own hands. If you think hes good get the fuck out you disgusting piece of shit.
Like Tadpole in the manga was very curious and energetic, I would not put it past him to sneak around just to explore while Sasha is off hunting, and maybe he just accidentally comes near Thunderclan border (idk how is that possible geography-wise, but hey it’s an AU anyway. Maybe he went along the twoleg place or smth, bare with me), and Bramblepaw (I think he should roughly an older apprentice at this point, who is already allowed to hunt on his own) is hunting or smth, and he is just like “wtf?? a kit alone?? where’s your mom?”
They chat a little, Tadpole telling this menacing-looking, but nice stranger about his mom and siblings, and how he just was looking around but got lost a bit and got too far, and Bramble, being the 1st series sweetie he used to be back then, listens and sorta befriends the rogue kit, telling him a bit about clan life as well. He then takes Tadpole home, since he can’t let a kit wander around without any adults.
Hawk and Moth are a bit intimidated at first, but soon adopt Tadpole’s excitement, and collectively bother Bramblepaw to play with them and maybe teach them some cool fighting and hunting moves. He only manages to get away, when Sasha returns. She is shocked to hear what happened and Tadpole gets a good scolding.
Bramblepaw and Sasha talk a bit. She does not tell him anything about her connection to Tigerstar (she of course quickly puts two and two together and guesses that the future warrior and her ex-mate are certainly related), just thanks him for watching over the kits and taking Tadpole back home. They part on good terms.
He briefly mentions that Firestar would not turn down a nursing queen in time of need, but Sasha firmly refuses. She does not explain why.
Later Bramble is unable to get the kits out of his head, Hawk obviously reminds him of himself and maybe even his father. He visits again, just to check if they are okay, and this time actually teaches the kits some moves like they wanted. This continues for some time. They are like little siblings to him at this point, and he loves this. Brablepaw misses Tawnypaw and sometimes wishes they had more time together, and while his time with rogue kits is not the same, he enjoys and treasures it.
He tries very hard to fit these visits in his busy clan schedule and feels conflicted if he should do this, but is unable to give up his new friendship.
He wonders if maybe he can make Sasha change her mind. Maybe he can even help with Hawk’s,Tadpole’s and Moth’s training if they join Thunderclan, he fantasizes. He knows that he is too young for an apprentice, even if his warrior ceremony is fast approaching, but it’s nice to dream.
Then he comes to rogues’ den one day, but there are no kits, only terrified Sasha. They search together (and he is quite impressed to see Sasha intimidate Bloodclan), and come just in time to find the trio trying to get of the flooded building.
Luckily for everyone, Bramblepaw is large enough to barely reach Tadpole and drag him out of water.
He does not take no for an answer this time. The kits are soaking wet and terrified, they need to be seen by a medicine cat. And he sure is not leaving them out of his sight. Sasha is visibly uncomfortable, but complies.
Firestar is surprised by the whole situation and is upset that his apprentice did not tell him earlier, but of course he lets Sasha stay. The kits, after the shock waves off, adapt quite well to the clan life and are exited about their home. None of them really want to leave. All of them adore Bramblepaw and follow him like three little shadows.
The similarities between Bramble and Hawk are obvious, and Firestar confronts Sasha, asking if the father is Tigerstar. She confesses that he used be her mate and asks the leader not to take it out on her kits. He then tells her how he used to harshly judge Bramlepaw for his looks alone and how he was proven wrong, so he is more than willing to give these kits a chance.
They stay and nobody dies and everyone lives happily ever after, Bramblepaw indeed getting to help with his siblings’ training and being the most loving big brother Thunderclan has ever seen.
Some side stuff:
- Mothwing and Leafpool being co-medicine cats. Maybe they are in love)
- Tadpole following Brambleclaw, when the Big Bro™ goes on his super important Starclan quest, cause of course he would. Maybe TadpoleSquirrel along the way, they are closer in age and I just think they’re neat (plus the StarClan shouldn’t be bitchy about it, it’s still Fire and Tiger)
- Tigerstar still trying to convince Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw (maybe Tadpole too, idk how he would feel about a kid who does not look like him) to train under him in Dark Forest, but they both refuse.
- Sasha and Goldenflower bonding time over their shared experience with the Garbagestar. Two ladies just being friends and talking about how proud they are of their children.
- I like the name Tadpoletail, I think it’s cute
Recently Iv been drawing this pillow pet like creature Sonic and Shadow😭 (and little rewrite exe one at end)
Plz pet gently
the fourth apprentice
I got no new art just headcanons 💀
On the topic of maps, there are way too many maps about the same characters and ships and scenes. Ashfur, Mapleshade, Hollyleaf, Ivypool, and Hawkfrost are on their 100000th map. The ideas are so overused that people are starting to make AUs around these characters (ex. Think the Cheeteh Z maps like cowboy mapleshade, bramblefur, hawkstorm, and hollyfawn). Instead of modifying the same characters, I wish they would make more maps about underrated and underrepresented characters/ships/scenes, especially since there probably are plenty of songs that fit.
Like, i guess ashfur and hollyleaf are popular, fun to animate, and many songs fit them but im sure people will still give your map attention if you made it about an underrated character. Didn’t someone make a map about daisy? That got attention. I don't want to hate on the map community. They're just trying to put together animated projects for fun. But idk, there are some characters/ships/scenes that are way too underrated and deserve their own map too.
longfire is messed up. firestar was a KITTEN when he joined the clans, and longtail was a young ADULT. i genuinely don’t get how people ship them.
on top of more kittypets being named after food i also want something like this to happen; edgy warrior marries stupid kittypet