Bill Cipher giving subtle hints of him loving his parents in his own book is my roman empire.
He practically called his dad a handsome fella aww :D
I am sobbing rn.please give me an ao3 fic where bill is with his mon scalene and father euclid RIGHT NOW
His home was called Euclydia and it was entirely two dimensional. ("Flat minds in a flat world with flat dreams.")
Bill was unique among his people because he had a mutation that allowed him to see the third dimension. This can mean that either a) Euclideans don't have eyes and Bill is the only one who had one or b) if they did have eyes, he literally had a third eye.
Bill's parents were most likely named Scalene and Euclid. Entering either of their names into the computer gives the prompt LIFE FORM NOT FOUND. Bill is stated to only draw red and blue triangles in art therapy, so those were probably their appearances.
From the code JUSTFITIN, you get this colour-coded poem:
Rock a bye billy Please don’t you cry It’s not your fault You have that strange eye Stay safe with mommy You’ll never fall And we’ll always love you Sharp angles and all
Bill says that everyone in Euclydia loved him. However, it's more likely that he was feared because of his mutation and talk of a third dimension. Bill has said numerous times that love and fear are the same, and if you enter WELLWELLWELLBEING into the computer:
Bill's parents took him to a doctor to help suppress his vision of the third dimension. This has been discovered through the codes on the silly straw page:
Fussy eater, baby Billy / Wouldn't drink unless it's silly The doctor says three sips a day / Will make the visions go away Eye doctor of a different kind / Who wants to make his patient blind Twisted out of shape after the kill / The ghosts of his family are haunting him still
Bill is responsible for the Euclidean massacre. Reversed audio on the website says that "the sky is on fire", and when Bill talks about liberating his dimension, his eye shows a fiery landscape too. Though he claims to have liberated them both in Weirdmageddon and the transmission with Time Baby, he is regretful and misses home. If you type in EVENHISLIESARELIES, you get a transcript of one of his sessions in the theraprism.
And from the axolotl's poem in Curse of the Time Pirate's Treasure:
When he tells Ford about his home dimension, he says that it was destroyed by a monster. And when Ford says that he could seek out the monster and get revenge on it, Bill replies: "Sixer, it would eat you alive." Bill also says that if he tries to talk about the day Euclydia was destroyed, there's a loud buzzing in his ears and he blacks out for 30 seconds. Still, he tells others that he freed everyone and that they are grateful for it. Until he gets drunk and starts calling out for his mom, asking her where she went...
ALL GFALLS CODES IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER
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333 SUNDAPPLE LANE, COZY CREEK, IL 60714-94611
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A RAT/RAT
ABUELITA
AD ASTRA PER ASPERA
ALEX/ALEX HIRSCH/ALEXANDER ROBERT HIRSCH/HIRSCH
ALGEBRA/GEOMETRY/GREECE/GREEK/MATH/PLATO/PYTHAGORAS/SHAPE/SHAPES/TRIGONOMETRY
AM I BLANCHIN
ANALOG HOROR/CREEPYPASTA/HORROR/URBAN LEGEND/URBAN LEGENDS
ANSWER
BAAAA/SAY BAAAA
BABBA/DISCO GIRL
BABY/BABY BILL/DADDY/LALALA/LALALALALA/MOMMY
BILL/CIPHER/BILL CIPHER/LLIB/REHPIC/LLIB REHPIC
BLANCHIN/BLANCHING
BLENDIN/BLENDIN BLANDIN/BLENDIN BENJAMIN BLANDIN
BLIND EYE
BOOBERRY
BOOK OF BILL/THE BOOK OF BILL
BOYFRIEND/IM LONELY/IM SINGLE/MARRY ME/ROMANCE/SOULMATE/TRUE LOVE/WHO IS MY SOULMATE
BREAKUP/DIVORCE/ROCK BOTTOM
BURNED INSIDE
BURNSIDE
BYE GOLD
CAESAR, ATABASH & VIGENERE/MULTILEVEL MARK
CARD/MY CARD
CHIP/DORITO/NACHO
CUA/FBI/NSA
CIPHERTOLOGY
CLONE/PAPER JAM/JAM DIPPER/PAPER JAM DIPPER/TYRONE
STOD EHT TCENNOC (CONNECT THE DOTS)
CONSPIRACY
CRAY CRAY
CRAZ/XYLER
CRYPTO/DOGE/ELON/FORTNITE/GYATT/NFT/RIZZ/SKIBIDI
CRYPTOGRAM CODEX
CURSED
CURSE WITTEBANE (Owl House reference)
DEATH
DEER TEETH
DESTRUCTION IS A FORM OF CREATION
DIONARAP (PARANOID)
DIPPER
DIPPY FRESH
DISNEY/DISNEYLAND/EPCOT/MICKEY/MICKEY MOUSE/WALT DISNEY
DISPENSE MY TREAT
DOES GOD EXIST/FACE OF GOD/FRILLIAM/GOD/HELP ME/GOD IS REAL/IS RELIGION REAL/REVEAL GOD/REVEAL GOD TO ME/SAVE ME/SHOW ME GOD/SHOW ME THE FACE OF GOD/WHAT DOES GOD LOOK LIKE/WHAT IS GOD/WHO IS GOD/WHO IS THE ONE TRUE GOD/WHO SHOULD I PRAY TO/WHO SHOULD I WORSHIP
DUCHESS APPROVES/THE DUCHESS APPROVED
DUCKTECTIVE
EASTER EGG
EMMALINE BUTTERNUBBINS
EUCLID/SCALENE/SCRIMBLES
EUCLIDIA
EVEN HIS LIES ARE LIES
FAMILY MATTERS
FIDDLEFORD/FIDDLEFORD HADRON MCGUCKET/FIDDLEFORD MCGUCKET/MCGUCKET/OLD MAN MCGUCKET
FILBRICK
FIXINIT1
FORD/SIXER/STANFORD/STANFORD PINES
FORDTRAMARINE
FORGET THE PAST
FUCK ALEX/FUCK ALEX HIRSCH/FUCK YOU ALEX
GAME THEORY/HELP ME MATPAT/THATS JUST A/THEORY
GIDEON
GIFFANY (SPAM THIS ONE SIX TIMES)
GLASS SHARD BEACH
GLOBNAR
GOODNIGHT SALLY
GRAVITY FALLS
GREBLEY HEMBERDRECK
GRUNKLE STAN/STAN/STAN PINES/STANLEY/STANLEY PINES (SPAM 25 TIMES)
GUN/THE GUN
HAROLD’S RAMBLINGS
HECTORING
HEY NERD
HISTORY
HOTXOLOTL
HOW DO I DIE/HOW WILL I DIE/TELL ME HOW I DIE/WHEN DO I DIE/WHEN WILL I DIE (SHOWS A RANDOM NUMBER 1-23; CONNECTS TO PAGES IN THE BOOK OF BILL)
I SEE/THEYLL SEE/THEYLL ALL SEE/YOULL SEE
IM STILL ON YOUR MIND/ON YOUR MIND (Stan O War code: SHH, LITTLE BILLY WORE VELCRO UNTIL HE WAS SIXTEEN. HE SAID SHOELACES WERE FASCIST BUT WE REALLY THINK HE JUST DIDNT KNOW HOW TO TIE THEM.)
IRREGULAR
IS HELL REAL/IS SATAN REAL/IS THE DEVIL REAL
IS THERE AN AFTERLIFE/WHAT HAPPENS AFTER I DIE/WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE/WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE DIE/WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE
JOURNAL 1
JOURNAL 2
JOURNAL 3
JUST BLENDIN
JUST FIT IN (code: ROCK-A-BYE BILLY/PLEASE DONT YOU CRY/ITS NOT YOUR FAULT/YOU HAVE THAT STRANGE EYE/STAY SAFE WITH MOMMY/YOULL NEVER FALL/AND WELL LOVE YOU ALWAYS/SHARP ANGLES AND ALL)
KINGS OF NEW JERSEY
KOOK
KUBRICK
LIAR LYRE/LYRE LIAR
LIES
LIFE
L IS REAL 2401
LOVE YA BRO
MABEL (SPAM UNTIL COMPUTER MESSAGE)
MASON
MEOW/MEOW WOW
MONSTER
MORALITY
MOUNTAIN DONT
MYSTERY
MYSTERY SHACK
NAITSUAF (FAUSTIAN; IF YES/CHANGES CANDLE TO BLUE) (AUDIO: THE SKY’S ON FIRE. EVERYTHING IS BURNING. HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? YOU KILLED THEM ALL…REMEMBER US)
NO
NOT A PHASE
NOTHING
OCCURREMUS HERUM
OH YES THEY BOTH
ONE EYED KING
OROBOROUS
OWL TROWEL
PACIFICA
PAPER IS BOOK SKIN
PEAK
PINATA
PINES
PLATINUM PAZ
PORTAL
QUESTION
REALITY
R34LITY
RIDDLE* (START HERE FOR THE QUESTION LINE, ALL ANSWERS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS LIST)
ROBBIE
RUBBER HOSE
SCARE/SPOOK-EM-UPS/SPOOKS/SPOOKY
SCIENTOLOGY
SEASON 1
SEASON 2
SEASON 3
SEVEN EYES
SEVERAL TIMES/SEV’RAL TIMES
SHAVE YOUR GRANDMA
SKELETON
SOMETHING
SOOS
SOUL CONTRACT/CONTRACT
SUCK IT MERLIN
TAD STRANGE
TANTRUM
THE UNIVERSE/UNIVERSE
THERAPRISM
TINSEL SNAKE
TITAN’S BLOOD (Owl House reference)
T.J. ECKLEBURG
TOBY DETERMINED
TORTURE MENTALLY
TOURIST TRAP
TRIANGLE
UNION MADE
UNREALITY
VALLIS CINERIS
VIRUS
WADDLES
WEIRD
WEIRDMAGEDDON
WELL WELL WELL BEING
WENDY
WHICH RELIGION IS RIGHT
WHO ARE YOU
YES
YOU CANT KILL AN IDEA
YOURE INSANE
The one who wages
(war)
Shamura gets the oldest sib lore and cannon event too *sobs*
Okay I have this theory where The Goat is Lamb but in another parallel universe, where instead of Narinder being the one who waits, it is Shamura the god of death. What do you guys think about that?
Miss you champ.
Rest in peace, River Boy. We’ll listen to you, still.
Edit, and for context:
Alex hirsch dropping the book of bill to the public:
Me:
ALEX HIRSCH!!!!
DROP SCALENE AND EUCLID CONTENT
AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
AKA STOP REBLOGGING FROM THIS NASTY PERSON
TW for mentions of gore, rape, incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and racism
TLDR: bunneis is a popular aesthetic blogger who publicly humiliated me over hazbin hotel. Turns out they have no problem posting irl gore or exposing minors to nsfw
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Sorry fellas. He’s married! To SCIENCE!
Yo chat.what if the reason bill sees himself as a god.
Is it because he is the son of one?
I have a head canon that Euclid is the Godfather of their dimension Euclydia.Euclid is their god and Bill is the next heir.Scalene would also be like their axioms.Known to be the embodiment of one of Euclydia's kind.A kind of triangle like a ruler of a species.Axioms are Geometry version of angels as they obey the rule of geometry like Scalene.
Which explains Bill Cipher's Mutation and abilities.Being an heir of a literal father of geometry and mother of a geometric kind would cause something out of bounds to happen.Not to mention,Bill Cipher thinks he is "liberating" everyone.He has the souls of the euclideans inside his consciousness.He want to give them a gift and knowledge so badly but it only condemns them.He wanted power to make his fellow people go "up" with him.He wants to show them that is not comprehensible.He can hear and read the euclidean's souls in his mind like an omniscient god.
In my Au,Bill has this strange eye because his birth is like an evolution of math itself.Modern Math has what is called Euclidean N-spaces.Which bare multi-dimensional geometry.Bill is destined to see other dimension before he was born.Scalene will think it is a miracle but for Euclid,It was something he must let go.He knows his son will see the stars,he knows his son will be like him too.A mentor and a god.But he could only show bill something abstract,something that can't see but bill wanted to and even feel it.He knew his son will do something inevitable but he and scalene love and devote bill cipher akin of a god.
Bill could be the God of geometry in gravity falls as he manipulates space and time as some sort of dimension he could change it to anything.And him making his home into an atom is his topological powers of transforming a flat plane into a tiny sphere.If only Euclid taught him before he was gone.Also Modern Math break old rules all the time.So I imagine Bill to argue with Euclid a lot but feel so guilty to the point he never mention him in the book directly like his mom.He did mention his dad in the book,being so handsome with his hat.So Bill could love his mom in more direct ways while to his dad more subtle.
RAAHHHHHH I LOVE THIS!!!This is an excellent lore!I love how it takes inspiration in gnosticism and jewish folklore!the design is perfect,he is so beautiful and deadly.
I also have my own version of samael,but you can ignore.i also yap alot so sorry if it is too much.
Questions
What is his dynamic with god,lucifer,the archangels,adam,lilith,cain and charlie?
Does he oppose charlie's redemption?or supports it?
What is his importance in heaven?
Backstory of his alter-ego and what is called
Character design lore(why his wings are black,halo is red and has thorns/horns motif,etc.)
What is his biblically accurate form?
Can i yap about my version?some of it is similar as yours but not quite
My version is like this(you can just ignore it)
He pretends to support charlie's redemption only to sabotage it and actually oppose it so he can punish sinners by manipulating charlie thinking he is supporting her.which is half true and half lie by challenging her with subtle moral dilemmas and luring charlie to redeem people that are irreedemable(ex.he will question charlie why she does not want to make a warlord enter the hotel,when jesus let people like paul in.)
his role in the fall of man was that he was the one who planted the forbidden tree also known as the tree of death or good and evil.that bears fruit of forbidden knowledge.
He is an atheist because god thinks while being absolutely disgusted at the idea of him having nonbelievers,anything that is not his is the works of nonbelievers(god's prototype idea of the devil even before lucifer born) and since there is a void before him.that void is repurposed as "samael".this void is also a realm where he is absent and all his failed creations go.a reference that samael in kabbalah is a realm of doubt,insanity and failed creations at the tree of death.
Samael is repurposed despite being the literal absence of god as god's vengeful hand.also known as the left hand of god(left-god)
He is the archangel of death,retribution and vengeance.he has two swords named revenge and avenge.he is formerly the warden of purgatory that soon to be hell and now the prosecutor.
He is also doing god's dirty work.from killing the firstborns of egypt,to stopping abraham from sacrificing isaac only to replace it with a sheep,beating up jacob/israel.and even doing the punishment instead of god as that will make him not so all-benevolent.samael is known as the destroyer of sinners.aka the first exterminator.
He also has your design but more black and wears a prosecutor uniform with a stole that resembles a priest like yours but black instead of white.mine has a halo that is like an atom is black but glows white like lute's halo.he is also the one who gives adam his army at first helps adam but in reality will worship adam as the "image of god" and exploit adam's flaws (subservient women to please his ego,letting him name them as adam do in the animals in eden,etc.)that gives adam this frat boy personality and why he thinks everyone shall worship him at the end of hh season 1.he hates humanity as much as god when he flood the earth.
He is not the father of cain tho.he is instead the guardian angel of cain when he is in exile who basically kills anyone who harms cain.and he is also the one who kills cain as his first soul exterminated as he is the 700 fold vengeance commanded by god that is stated in the bible.
He will be the anti-thesis to charlie's whole redemption.and calls her an anti-christ,never her name.call out her mistakes and failure.basically the satan of the satan.and just like how jesus christ is tempted by satan in the bible for a test.he will do this to charlie as a test.he will shatter charlie's view of heaven and hell with his atheistic beliefs like how useless the endless war of heaven and hell,heaven and hell is not forever or how all of these are mere phantoms,fairy tales so charlie can focus more on the sinners he called egoists.he always warns charlie by comparing her mistakes to the bible(ex. He will compare charlie's slay of the exorcists and adam with mentioned bible verses(matthew 10:34,luke 19:27),making her a hypocrite and expose charlie's savior complex.)
He last name is SufferingStar (etymology of disaster) to contrast the morningstar.
Our atheists are pious people -max stirner
Basically this is who he is,a pious atheist so charlie cannot use the heaven/hell discourse to him and cannot use any religious texts.it must have a scientific evidence and actual redemption which charlie severely lacks.
Say hello to my interpretation of Hazbin Hotel's Samael! Contrary to popular belief, while their may be some theological traditions which assert Samael and Lucifer/Satan are the same entities, the former is largely a separate figure entirely! Although he's typically recognized as an Angel of Death, I decided to go a different route and turn him into Heaven's unofficial "Angel of Doom." He's effectively the deliverer of divine disaster, as well as the very embodiment of God's own hate which they purged from themselves before the universe's genesis to ensure their holy immaculacy. My Samael is pretty much the unlucky bastard who does all of God's dirty work — a job that no doubt gets pretty stressful after a few thousand centuries of doing it, hence why he sorta kinda developed a distorted alter-ego to help him cope with all the carnage, chaos, and cataclysm he invokes on a regular basis. If anyone's curious about him and would like to ask any questions, feel free to hmu!! I desperately crave the opportunity to yap more about him... 🎨: https://www.instagram.com/eve.motherofall/
HELLO THE WEBSITE HAS UPDATED and different things happen when you type things into the computer on the screen. if a character/word isnt relevant the computer gives a red X. so far i've found:
stanley: takes you to an ebay search for brass knuckles
mabel: adds stickers to the set. you can keep hitting enter until the the room has been "fully mabelized"
ford/sixer: a case file on ford's extra digits
soos: a long set of notes about how soos is doing running the mystery shack
dipper: a note presumably from bill to dipper "informing" him that he can decode messages by staring into the sun. if you enter his name multiple times bill urges you to keep looking with words of encouragement as each note becomes progressively blurry and splotched with black until the entire notecard turns black
bill: this youtube video (and no it's not a rickroll)
gideon: an audio recording plays of gideon humming/scatting to the tune of "we'll meet again", ending with a whispered message of "i love you, mabel"
wendy: a note pranking you with the the 👌 emoji
mcgucket/fiddleford: the cotton eye joe music video
pacifica: a warning note about the book of bill mabel made her write
robbie: chat messages between him and thompson as they prepare to summon bill (as mentioned in tbob) with an image of their encounter
tad strange: the computer plays clips of bread being sliced set to jazzy instrumentals. this enables the glowing red button on the computer to turn green to switch the bread videos on and off at will
blendin: a message appears on the screen reading "time agent lost and presumed incompetent"
weirdmagedon: a newspaper page from the gravity fall's gossiper utilising the "nevermind-all-that-" act and stating "nothing happened" that day
axolotl: text onscreen appears: "you ask alotl questions"
T.J. eckleburg: text onscreen appears: "never mention that name again"
cipher: links to a wikipedia page about triangles
blanchin: pulls up a youtube tutorial on how to blanche vegetables
triangle: one half of a parenthesis appears on the computer ")"
dippy fresh: links to this image
mystery shack: links to a google search for confusion hill
gravity falls: text appears onscreen reading "never heard of it"
portal: text appears onscreen reading "portal.exe has been deleted. i bet you could build one"
theraprism: a notice sign appears- "in case of (coded words) do not use elevators" with a graphic of a person and a cthulu like monster on stairs
blind eye: an eye chart utilising the same string of letters- "WKHBOOVHH" that gets smaller each line, paired with blocks of color- the cursor turns into a "zoom in" tool that actually just makes the page blurrier with each click
creepypasta/horror: an entry on the urban legend "the always garden"- a liminal space/backrooms style restaurant anomaly
alex hirsch: links to a google search for flannels
toby determined: links to a google search for restraining order
dorito/chip: a dorito slowly enlarges on the computer screen and then becomes a jumpscare of a toothy bill, who periodically screams for a bit before the video finishes
love: pulls up the romance novel, clicking starts an audio recording of the book
death: text appears onscreen: "life's goth cousin"
book of bill: text appears onscreen: "hide it under shirt during pledge of allegiance"
life: text appears onscreen: "life: 72% complete. now loading: death"
baby: an ultrasound of a baby bill in a womb and a message congratulating you
pines: text appears onscreen: "a good family tree"
weird: a video of weird al yankovich appears on the screen, he's confused and shouts for bill to get him out of there
waddles: links to a pig adoption website
mickey/disney: text appears onscreen: "rat.gif censored for your protection"
ducktective: text appears onscreen reading "ducktective stars in 'love, quacktually', coming to 'oi, it's the cockney channel innit?' this fall"
mason: a note from dipper about ford teaching him anagrams, plus a coded message with that technique
tyrone/clone: a picture of the janky dipper clone with a message that he's yours now
matpat/game theory: a video of matpat and a conspiracy board, he turns to say "hello internet, you're on... you're own... good luck" as he holds the book of bill
skeleton: text appears onscreen: "the one with the sword! he found you!"
scary: pulls up a parody goosebumps book "spookemups"
divorce: pulls up a logo for "o'sadley's'"
music: enables you to click the dial, clicking the dial plays loud static
math: bill recounting an encounter he had with plato
conspiracy: a video of charlie day in a tin foil hat rambling about the website's previous state, holding the book of bill
okay that's all i could find for now, at least until the codes get decoded, they might be relevant too