This guy got the most sick design among the nomus, despite he's technically a low tier soldier and doesn't come back ever again.
Chapter 81: Roaring Upheaval
It's a shame Nine was mostly ignored by the fandom, but it's understandable considering HR was released during the time MVA was at it's peak of hype and everyone treated it like the 2nd coming of Christ.
Also if you're a movie character isn't like people is going to remember you very much, expect for Rody Soul, while the others like Melissa or the Shimano kids have a little niche of fans but that's it.
But it's funny how years later there was a resurgence in the talks of how the main villain should have been and Nine got a lot more of appreciation recently, cause compared to Shigaraki and AFO his characterization feels way more solid despite he having much less content.
Also people generally accepts Nine showed to be a better fighter and more skilled user of the properties of AFO (the quirk). To add to the irony.
You know? It's kinda of funny how LOV fans treat the whole "I want to be a hero for villains" of Shigaraki as something groundbreaking, when the same concept was already introduced in the series (and was done better) with Nine.
Unlike Shigaraki, Nine literally meet his team members when he saved their lives. In Chimera's case it was when a bunch of racists were about to execute him just for being a mutant.
Nine also was a hero for them in a more thematic level, as he not only save their lives but actually give his team mates a reason for live and fight. He offered them the chance to fight for create a better world. For me it's quite remarkable how Nine despite being a homeless and chronically ill person, go for save people he view as equally oppressed by the world.
He was selfless enough to sacrifice his own health using his quirk to save Chimera despite it was destroying his body, and without expecting nothing in exchange for share a dream Nine a hand to people at their lowest point.
That's much more of an "All Might for the villains" or whatever Horikoshi tried to make Shigaraki in the final moments. Or hell Nine even acts better as a foil to Deku in the sense both are selfless individuals who fight despite their bodies are crumbling, just for the save of the persons who are important to them.
How ironic is that Nine, the original movie villain that was supposed to be just a prototype for the "final villain" of MHA, ended executing the same themes way better than Shigaraki.
Hi @nyc3 đź‘‹
A main reason as to why people treat shigaraki's I want to be a hero for the villains ideology better than nine's is simply because I assume a lot of people forgot the plot of the 2nd movie or haven't read the one shot manga chapter mha leauge of villains undercover. All of this is a shame because I heavily agree that nine's version of I want to be a hero and hope for the villains is executed and built up 10000x times better than shigarakis and nine had a fraction of the screentime that shigaraki got which is saying a lot.
Actually rewatching the film and rereading the manga one-shot has showed me that nine and shigarakis arcs are pretty similar with nine's having a better execution and shigaraki having more wasted potential.
The movie sets it clear that nine and shigaraki are supposed to be foils for one another so it makes sense that they would share parallels. However, you would expect that by the time nine is defeated that shigaraki would naraatively prove to us that he is ultimately the better character but in truth he doesn't and nine's downfall by shigaraki ends up being quite disappointing to me.
Another problem within the narrative is also the lack of interactions that nine and shigaraki have. I think that nine is essential to helping shigaraki and start to infulence him to realise that he is just a puppet and should develop a goal outside of just destruction. If shigarakis goal stays as destruction then the destruction of what? Everything? And how would that benefit anyone including him?
Nine like you said meets his teammates and saves them. He sees his teammates suffer like him and chooses to help them and they choose to help him. There is a clear relationship being developed and all the characters come together for the same goal, with similar backgrounds and varying styles yet they work.
When nines team see him in distress they run to help him and vice versa. The team has trust and overall everything that a lot of the leauges dynamics and development lacks.
Nine seeks destruction but his path is clear. He seeks to liberate and let nature flow its course with the strong overtaking the weak and finally being leaders instead of feared and abused because they don't fit into the small little box that is the mha's status quo. Nine plans to get stronger while being fully conscious and knowing the consequences. He makes a logical and heroic decision where we see him realise that he is trading his own autonomy and agency in becoming a lab rat all in exchange for power and a slim chance at achieving his goal.
This is all contrasted with shigaraki and his actions. We don't see his goal of destruction develop into a much more consistent and precise idea like destroying the giver and status quo. We don't see shigaraki fully conscious to come to the conclusion that yes the doctor is evil but he needs power. We lack everything from shigaraki and the information of chapter 419 just makes his character worse as shigaraki was a lab rat through and through.
Horikoshi tries to make shigaraki the better character but nine outclassed him in every way possible from the traumatic beginnings, to the developed flawed goal and to the final bitter end where we see nine crumble due to various factors 1)shigarakis decay and 2) his illness whereas shigaraki dies due to afo still being a lab rat that fulfills his purpose.
All of this reminds me of the ask that said mha's manga ending is a sloppy edited 2nd movie ending (except I was only looking at it from a hero perspective but it even applies to the villains)
You can't take sexist Dabi away from me!
But seriously I love the idea for multiple reasons, one of them being that is a direct response to the whole "lov are sjw" that lov fans love to circlejerk just to make them look more noble compared to the "problematic" characters like Endeavor or Overhaul especially.
Just think on Dabi having to share space with Toga after that makes it extra hilarious.
And another important reason is because as you know I ship DabiTen a lot, but here's a thing: I like Geten being a trans boy.
So the consequences of Dabi being super sexist but at the same time Geten being sort of the love of his life are fun because it will drive him mad for clash with his own beliefs. I imagine a situation in which Dabi tries to have sex with Geten, but when he found what Geten haves under his clothes it left him in shock.
Ah the sweet drama.
For some reason I think this is Dabi's favorite book ever:
Hahahahaha hahahahaha
Listen @nyc3 I do love some good old joke "Dabi is a sexist" but in canon...we don't see much to proof that. He was rude to his mom and sis one time ? Sure. He was under a fucked up situation as he knew why he was born.
Plus when he wakes up from the coma, he wanted to see his mother and sister.
Funny jokes
But don't think dabi is a sexist.
The age difference being also generational makes almost all Endeavor ships with young adults more fun, Hawks especially.
I think you aren't a shipper but considering our last talk...I wonder
What you think about dabi x Mirko?
Its just....if Mirko has to be shipped with a villain, dabi could work. Now it doesn't mean it will be a sweet romance...it think it would be dark. A one night stand type of deal where dabi thinks Mirko is as villainous as he is (she likes to beat up villains, she goes for the kill)
I just wondering here bc I've seen some arts and fics of them and...got my attention
Also...god I love your interpretation of Dabi x Burnin hahaha. He fucks her in hopes to get infos...gets useless infos (till the very last second where she reveal rather blase smth essential)
Oh but I do like shipping, is just I don't have anything worth to post about the ships I like (for now).
That being said Mirko isn't a character I'm very invested, but considering how popular she's overall obviously there's a lot of ships with her. For some reason many people love ship her with Shigaraki... ew why that's even a thing?
I never seen any Mirko x Dabi content but it can't be as bad as that other. And she would probably dominate Dabi which is always a plus to see.
Perhaps the only Mirko ship that got my interest a bit is her and Rappa, mainly because the fun chemistry they got in Vigilantes. We can considerer him an time to time villain?
That idea about Burnin came out of nowhere really, her chaotic personality just make this kind of situations write themselves. She's also the kind of person who could drive mr. edgelord crazy because he can't stand her energy.
Biggest hear me out of MHA...
Goto Imasuji
Idk he's just so savage but like a sexy beast.
Also how little bit of stubble can make a man look so much better?
The contrast between s3 Goto and s6 Goto is insane
(Probably also helps he ditched the silly fake eye)
Anyway, he's such a beast and I love him.
『Tiempo juntos』
Giyuu y Sabito pasan el tiempo uno al lado del otro. Durante las misiones cazando demonios, los descansos entre los pueblos en los que ayudan, las reuniones de Pilares y sus dĂas libres en la Finca del Agua.
But Chisaki needs a maternal figure in his life as well... and considering I ship OverHawks very hard is funny imagine Nagant reaction when she see his successor and the yakuza she rescued together. She would be like "The world sure is tiny".
Outside of that she taking care of Kai shows how her primary instincs of being a protective figure are still there, which could also extent to other characters.
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Kind of funny how Shoto with a double effect quirk is seen as some kind of miracle and god among mens, yet when Midoriya starts unlocking quirks every month people is like "oh yeah whatever".
I think that's just Horikoshi making everyone act like an idiot only for the reveal of OFA being a thing look like a big surprise, but that only makes the characters seem stupid. And there's this recurrent joke among the fandom of how the photographer dude from S4 discovered Midoriya secret after spend a few hours with him, but his friends just give his power for granted.
Cider is way smarter than them. He would notice something isn't very normal about a person with so many powers, but that also would fascinate him and what to know more, because it is a cool thing to have.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
Matching tattoos for lovers is a trope I live for.
And Cider probably would get a taste of his own medicine is Izumi starts teasing him in more creative ways. Two can play the same game.
The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.
Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)
Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)
Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.
(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)
Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.
Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.
Lol
(I love a good mask reveal!)
I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?
Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.
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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.
They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.
Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.
And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.
Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.
Shippy thing for the couple.
Cinder teaching Izu how to swim/surf. Like, in canon Izu never was in a beach (sigh we do have a light novel where the main joke is "Izu is almost eat by an orc bc he thought it was the hero orc" hate it) well, here Izumi has a beach day.
A few details.
Aside the scars on her arms. Izuchan has big boobs.
No, this isn't ecchi. There a narrative reason for that.
Heroines with big boobs are more profitable bc you can explore the sex appeal, see Momo. But what you think happens with villainess that are well endowed?
They are seductress, sluts who will steal your man.
Izumi never even kisses someone ...she is getting comfortable with a lot before considering kisses. Which it's funnier bc the media paints her as this slut when she is not. Before meeting cinder she was on the path on finally seeing her scars as smth other than painful. (Not to attribute this to one guy)
So...in a beach day, Izumi in her bikini is a character development visually.
Cinder is allowed to admire...she is a pretty girl.
He uses his quirk and teaches her how to surf.
They just having fun.
Oh I was totally into making a good beach day for them. It's the quintessential form of fanservice after all.
The orca thing was actually canon? I always thought it cames from that "smash" comic that was explicitly non canon and self parody.
Anyways, while I'm not super into big boobs for woman to be considered attractive, is a fact that if Midoriya was a woman she would have the same atributes as Inko who certainly has very generous proportions.
And Cider surely likes that, and oh boy he sure isn't shy to express how much he likes the body of his girl (scars included of course).
And do you think Izumi is into guy with big pecs? Because Cider got some nice ones and he loves use tank tops just to make them look better.
Them having a good day in the water is all what they deserve after dealing with a lot of shit. And Izumi is a quick learner so by the end of the day she would be surfing like a professional, impressing Cider.
I like to think they would end the day looking at the sunset sitting together on the warm sand, Izumi resting her head on Mizunami shoulder and he has an arm wrapped around her waist. They got a kissing sessions of course, what a way to end a good day.
Kai is that impossible crush.
I know he loves Chrono despite everything, people overlook how much Kai values him. Is just that he's too busy being the perfect yakuza leader to attend romantic feelings.
This is such a fun scene when you think about the context, cause is supposed to be from Chrono's perspective.
Chrono really think he can fool us and make us think Chisaki, a person with severe misophonia, would voluntarily enter in a cage fight shirtless AND without gloves?
Especially considering we have another the flashback of the same or a similar situation from Rappa's perspective and we clearly see Chisaki doesn't take off his clothes for "fight".
Is Chrono so thirsty for Kai that he unconsciously imagines him shirtless?
Well I can't blame you at all Hari... I do the same thing all the time.