THE JIMMY VOICE OH HOW I’VE MISSED IT
hi john winchester quick question - why did you leave salmondean alone in that motel room when you were hunting the shtriga? why would you need to? in the show’s lore - the shtriga works in annual cycles and goes through one town, ONE, each time. meaning that since the creature went after sam, presumably the motel was in the same town where the hunt was. so why did you need to leave the motel for days? where did you go? and moreover - we see in the “now” part of this episode that the shtriga isn’t particular with the order of the children. sometimes it takes the youngest first (two queens kid’s family), sometimes the oldest (the lay me down to sleep girl from the start of the ep) - what was the plan if it’s gone after dean first? sam’s how old here? four? five? you told dean to protect sam, but did you even think that dean might’ve been the first victim?
Sam being adorably weird.
SO ! i was gonna make a poll asking if jack: a. got his ears pierced at claires (store) at the mall with cas b. got his ears pierced by claire (novak) at a girls night c. neither? (wrong)
but i realized that was foolish because he did both ! first time with cas it immediately heals and pushes the earrings out (remember the tattoos?) and cas is like: [hand on shoulder] im sorry jack :( but then jack is hanging out with claire who takes matters into her own hands and has the bright idea to make the earrings out of the archangel blade! and they have a cute little trashy diy piercing session!
and maybe the guys get a little mad about the melting down of one of the most powerful and rare weapons they have to make jewellery
I’m on season 12 episode 4 now! So close yet so far from Jack, but hey I’m close to Kelly time!
kissing the makeup artist who gave him blood streaks that look like tear tracks
my sudden obsession with a random actor has led me to films i wouldn’t even go with a gun
(trying to explain babyjack in the destiel language so they can understand what I’m saying)
so you see it’s like if dean’s one-off improvised “baby in a trench coat” comment to cas in 6x19 got taken far too literally and everyone decided that either Cas or the show would be better off as an actual baby in a trench coat being babysat by Sam and Dean instead of being a former angel of the lord and later member of team free will. so they completely ignore his actual character and relationship dynamics to keep the baby thing going, make it almost entirely impossible to enjoy or engage with any content about him because it’s all nothing but the same baby-Cas being babysat drivel and there’s no sign of nuanced discussion to be seen.
maybe it gets switched up with Bobby as the babysitting uncle instead of Sam and Dean but that’s as different as it’ll ever get. eventually trench baby Cas gets so over-saturated within the fandom that it becomes regarded and touted as the show’s own gospel truth instead of the silly fandom joke it started as. destiel is of course completely nonexistent, because Cas is a baby and dean is his babysitter-dad and that’s weird, right?
but if you try to say “hey no, that’s actually a grown ass gay man who loves dean romantically and he’s an equal part of the family, this baby stuff was never real and the canon textual evidence actually shows he’s a grown ass gay man who loves dean,” you’ll get thrown in the corner with a shame collar because everyone is still so insistent that their baby-being-babysat dynamic is the real textual deal. mmkay?
listen i get your frustration about how people treat jack, i hate when people reducd him down to just a destiel baby too. but as an autistic person myself, i really disagree with you calling people that like baby jack ableist. he's canonically 4 years old and had to have his childhood basically stripped away from him due to how dangerous it was. i don't think people enjoying the thought of him getting to have that chance at a happy childhood is as cruel and evil as you seem to think.
it’s actually a little more complicated than i sometimes make it out to be, but let me square some misconceptions away first before I get to that.
1) Jack’s childhood was never stolen or stripped from him; he specifically chose to be a teenager/young adult because of Kelly’s warnings, and he is narratively treated like one from there on out.
2) there’s never been any canon instance of him wishing he was a child or had a normal childhood—in fact, whenever people do regard or treat him as one, it’s only ever been shown to upset him. there’s also the fact that Jack literally says out loud that he isn’t a child, so unfortunately “giving Jack a chance at something he never wanted” isn’t a good enough justification for me.
The things he has expressed, however, are—
wanting to be a “normal” human teenager and experience human teenager things, like falling in love and getting a parking ticket (also read: not wanting to be a messiah figure that’s always being chased and manipulated)
wanting to be strong and capable enough to protect his loved ones, hating when he isn’t strong or capable enough, and hating when others perceive him as weak, defenseless and less capable (also read: he hates being infantilized)
frustration that his limited experience and naïveté give him less self control over his powers, making him more dangerous and more vulnerable for manipulation
wanting autonomy over himself; his identity, his chosen family, his decisions, his powers, etc. pretty much goes hand in hand with wanting to be more capable. Jack’s character is literally built around him struggling to have autonomy, and as cold as it sounds, children just don’t have that. so, to actively and repeatedly take away something he’s had to fight for just sits so wrongly with me.
3) While his canon chronological age is two, Jack is also canonically developed to being either 18 or in his early twenties (ie the “I’m 22” line). He’s also still treated like a young adult and continuously placed in adult situations: being tortured, dying, expressing both romantic and sexual interest in Harper (and her reciprocating), being called hot by the girl in Gimme Shelter. In various scripts he’s referred to as a teenager, a young man, an adolescent, etc. “Kid” is a very broad term for anyone that’s younger, also, so please don’t try to act like that means he’s a real baby.
It’s basically the same situation as other born-adult characters like Vision or Superboy; Vision is three years old and already a husband/father with Wanda. Superboy is only sixteen weeks old throughout the first season of Young Justice and has a girlfriend, Megan.
4) This is the complicated part of it. It might shock you to learn, but I’m actually fully aware that nobody who likes baby!jack is a raging ableist with malicious intent towards autistic people. Because Jack wasn’t intentionally written to be autistic, and only coded via the traits and mannerisms given to him (topped with AlCal’s own portrayal + eventual confirmation of the headcanon), the idea of making a chronological two year old adult an actual two year old was fairly harmless, and like you said, done with the intent to give him a chance at a happy childhood.
However, since he was confirmed as autistic, there have been plenty of other blogs pointing out that turning him into a child or continuously insisting that he canonically is—especially since he’s intended to be an adult—is basically teetering on the edge of accidental ableism. I don’t know about you, but insisting that a grown adult with autistic traits is “mentally a toddler” is extremely gross, and I don’t want to be in even the slightest vicinity of anyone who believes it. The other problem I have with it is that all of these blogs were basically ignored. I’ve been ignored. I’ve gotten more engagement on my 1000th day destiel shitpost than most of my posts about Jack’s infantilization, and that speaks very loud to me about how much the fandom really cares.
There’s also the fact that baby!jack is basically the only content ever made around him, and even in adult jack content, all of his personality and growth is still basically so watered down and infantilized and far removed from actual canon that it should be considered an OC at this point. it’s an extremely frustrating experience for people who are actually interested in his character, bc we basically have nothing to engage with in the fandom now—which has also been pointed out out time and time again, only to be ignored time and time again, because again, the fandom doesn’t care, especially since it’s such easy canon fodder for hashtag domestic destiel.
I don’t think baby!jack fans are cruel or evil for enjoying it, but I do think it’s worth calling out that they repeatedly ignore any criticisms of it, whether that’s the underlying ableism, the general frustration with his character treatment, or the fact that the content they engage in actively takes away some pretty meaningful representation from autistic people. Honestly, the worst of it is when they literally accuse people in the fandom of pedophilia (I am unfortunately not joking about this) for finding a grown man attractive, because they’re so attached to the notion that he’s actually a baby and, yet again, actively ignore anything that says otherwise.