Tim's Red Robin run is just him becoming like Bruce right after Jason's death.
Like Tim is more aggressive, and he's taking fights that he knows he most likely won't win, and he's practically suicidal. Tim lost himself to the same grief Bruce did.
Out of all the Batkids, Tim is the most likely Bruce. However, because he saw Bruce, he was able to set himself up with an actual support system.
But straight up, Tim didn't expect to survive any of it. His one job was to find Bruce and maybe die when Ra's shoves him out the window or when he protected Tam or when the Widower stabbed him.
Tim doesn't know, but he wasn't trying to live. He wasn't trying to die either. If he did, just blame it on circumstance. If he didn't, he didn't.
Tim was passively suicidal. He wasn't trying to die, but he wasn't not trying either.
Poseidon does not regret his son's birth, but he doesn't know how else to phrase it to him.
how do you tell a 12 year-old boy, an infant in comparison to you and your kin, that his life will be hardship after hardship, trial after trial, full of grief and pain and terror, but Poseidon was glad he was born anyway? that his fate will never be a kind one, will be sad at best, cruel at worst, that there will be times he will wish he was dead, that he will wish he was normal, that he will wish Poseidon truly was a myth, but that you are glad his is your son regardless? how do you tell him that you wouldn't have it any other way? that his pain will be because he is yours, but that you are glad he is yours anyway?
do you tell this boy that you love him, that his cursed existence will bring him pain unimaginable, but that's okay, because he is yours? or do you tell him that you regret, that you feel for him, that you wish it was different?
do you tell your son kind lies, or harsh truths?
the bats being asked how they would feel if they became their moms:
Bruce: sobbing
Dick: I'd be okay with that, she was truly a great mom... before she and my father were tragically murdered....
Tim: yea, I think I'm good. I loved her and all but I'd prefer not
Duke: maybe, you know, before she was jokerized and trying to kill me
Steph: fuck no
Damian: ....
Cass, after being reminded that her mother exists, silently stands and leaves to go and fight Lady Shiva again
Jason: look me in the eyes and ask that question again
average 1980s dick grayson panel is dick looking at joey and being like wow! I sure feel different when I’m around joey! must be because we’re bestiessss :D
Not sure if we can jump up, kick back, whip around, and spin our way out of this one, boys.
The Lightning Thief / Growing Sideways, Noah Kahan / Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan, Ilya Repin + Saturn Devouring His Son, Goya + Saturn, Rubens / The Blood of Olympus / The Family Jewels, MARINA / The Last Olympian / The Sea of Monsters / The Family Jewels / Orestes Pursued by the Furies, Bouguereau / The Hidden Oracle / Apollo and Marsyas, Manfredi / In The Blood, John Mayer / The Sea of Monsters / The Combat of Ares and Athena, Jacques Louis David / The Family Jewels / Mark of Athena / The Combat of Ares and Athena / The Lightning Thief / Family Line, Conan Gray / Cronos and Rhea, Schinkel / The Lightning Thief / The Blood of Olympus / In The Blood / The Last Olympian / Chronos and His Child, Romanelli / Desireé Dellagiacomo / The Lightning Thief / Family Line / The Fallen Angel, Alexandre Cabanel + The Last Day of Pompeii, Bryullov / The Blood of Olympus / The Outcast, Botticelli / Glass, Irony and God, Anna Carson / House of Hades / Family Line / The Last Olympian / The Lament for Icarus, Herbert Draper + Sacrifice of Iphigenia, Roman School + Minerva and Arachne, Houasse + Venus Induces Helen to Fall in Love with Paris, Kauffmann / The Last Olympian / Hadestown / The Lightning Thief / apple, Charli xcx / The Last Olympian / I Would Leave Me If I Could, Halsey / The Sea of Monsters / ? / LET YOUR DAD DIE ENERGY DRINK, Lavery and Corrigan / The Last Olympian / Eat Your Young, Hozier / The Last Olympian / Orpheus and the Bacchantes, Lazzarini / The Blood of Olympus / Susan Smith, wych elm / Orpheus and the Bacchantes / The Burning Maze / ? / The Tyrant’s Tomb / Perseus Freeing Andromeda, Veronese / Abduction of Psyche, Bouguereau + Bacchus and Ariadne, Van Loo / The Tower of Nero / The Tower of Nero / The Tower of Nero
He’s a very professional Catholic Priest
BatFamily and Their Batman Ship:
Alfred - BatCat. Even though he disaproves of Selina's criminal life he enjoys her company enough it doesn't really matters. He thinks Selina and Bruce are perfect for each other.
Jim Gordon - BatCat and BruHarvey before discovering that Batman and Bruce were the same people he kindda just belived Catwoman was Batman's soulmate and Harvey was Bruce's tragic soulmate. Is more inclined towards Bruharvey because he thinks Bruce is the only one who can get Harvey's back and he and Harvey really bonded working together and he saw Harvey as an younger brother before Two-Face.
Dick - BatCat or SuperBat. He loves both Clark and Selina and both were basically parents for him in a way or another. He is very disapointed in Bruce for never acting on either of his two very obvious crushes. He is even more disapointed after Khoa breaks Bruce's heart.
Dick is an anti-GhostBat and Khoa will have to do a lot of work to prove his worth to Bruce's eldest child. He also disaproves of BruHarvey.
Barbara - BruHarvey or BatCat, just like Dick she grew whatching Selina sending Bruce the heart eyes and also respecting Selina as the ultimate girlboss. But while Dick was seeing Superman sending his dad love eyes, Barbara was seeing her uncles Harvey and Bruce weirdly pinning. And while Dick and Harvey never got along at all, Harvey was very close to the Gordon family as a whole and used to babysit Babs a lot.
Jason - Brutalia and WonderBat. He accepts some of Bruce's other love interests, but he doesn't like them. Talia means to Jason the same that Selina means to Dick, she is basically his mother and he adores her.
While Jason would support Wonderbat as well is important to add that he thinks Diana could and should do better. He thinks the same of Talia, but he also knows how much she likes Bruce and believes Bruce does act better when with her. He is starting to think BruHarvey is also not that awfull of an idea.
Cassandra - She saw most of Bruce's romantic phases with people and she has no fix idea. She just wants Bruce to be happy. If she had to choose one option would probably be Talia, but in parts is because she has a tiny crush on Talia.
Tim - None. Tim doesn't think anyone is good enough for Bruce. Or better put he thinks Bruce is too emocionally fragille for a relationship. Anyone who dates Bruce will have to deal with an overprotective Tim.
He specially distrusts Selina. The closest to a Bat ship he has is BatLatern cause Tim was the Robin during the time Bruce and Hal were having the weird "chair" friendship and it kindda reminded Drake of him and Kon. Still he is very anti Batman dating and will make a PowerPoint presentation of "things I'm going to do with you if you ever hurt Bruce."
Stephanie - Thinks Bruce is too much of a loser to date. Does ship BatCat. She likes Selina and like all Robins saw her and Bruce weird flirt, she thinks they match. She also supports Brutalia, mostly because Damian convinced her. She just really doesn't care. Will write trash fic about Batman and his Rogues. When Riddler was living at her home she would specially make fun of his crush on Bruce. But is more her being a little gremlim than anything else.
Damian - Brutalia. Duh. He wants his parents to be an item and he wants it now. Will do a parent trap if necessary. Sees good points in other ships, he actually gets along well with Selina and with Clark, but I mean, he is on his mother's side.
Duke - Coudn't care less. There is only one superhero love life he cares and it's his own. He loves Bruce but that man's love life is just too messy for him to have an opinion on and my man knows his priorities. While not as protective as Tim, Duke is still very protectice of Bruce.
Bao - GhostBat. This child of divorce just wants to see his parents get back together and he will fight the other child of divorce (Damian) over it.
[I can't imagine neither Kate nor Helena even participating on such debate because both are really not intererested in Bruce's weird love life. I also have no idea what Harper, Cullen, Maps or Luke would think].
All members of the batfam hate BatJokes.
Disclaimer: there is very specific situations with different ships, for example I personally believe that Lego Dick does shipp BatJokes and Unburied Babs ships RiddleBat. But this are very specific versions of the characthers and not the general norm.
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*Kai walking by*
Cole: I wish I had something to throw at him
Nya: you have a phone
Cole: wouldn't wanna break my phone on his thick head
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*the ninja all being suspicious*
Wu: what the flying fig tree is happening!?
Lloyd: ooh, alliteration, I like it
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*the police arresting Lloyd*
Lloyd: *annoyed* god can't keep me in check but the law can...
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Cole: roses are red, violets are blue, suffering is intense and so is my love for you
Kai: I can't tell if you're flirting with me or crying for help
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Nya: in a world where one of them is straight
*Nya gestures to the boys*
Nya: it's not Cole
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Zane: do you remember the last time you ate a baseball?
Jay: 😃😦🤨
Zane: well?
Jay: 😔
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Lloyd: *casually* I once ate poison ivy
Everyone else: ???
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Kai: he's definitely sucking on me, but that's besides the point
Cole: 😦
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Nya: Jay, do something cool
Jay: I can twiddle my toes *twiddles toes*
Lloyd: she said "cool" not "disturbing"
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Kai: I'm a great dancer
Jay: you dance like a worm
Cole: and not in the cool way
Kai: I do not!
Zane: you definitely do
Kai: *starts trying to dance but just looks like a weird worm*
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Nya: I will cut a bitch
Jay: no?? No thanks???
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Misako: *wearing a costume for Halloween* who am I?
Jay: the queen of England?
Misako: I would have come in wearing a coffin then
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*playing board games*
Wu: I'm gonna win! I can feel it in my bones! Or maybe that's my arthritis..
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Arin: *trying to sing* something something, slim shady, something something, swear words-
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Sora: I love you, Wyldfyre, but I think you're trying to kill me
Wyldfyre: maybe I am!!
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Arin: guess what *middle finger*
Sora: 😃
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*Wyldfyre being aggressive*
Kai: stop tormenting the other students! I will turn this class around!!
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*loud but normal sound if you have a pet*
Jay: *paranoid* that was loud
Nya: maybe the cat knocked something over
Jay: but how??
Nya: by running into it
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Sora: I'm so nice
Arin: 🤨
Sora: *kicks Arin* so kind
Arin 😔
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Jay: *talking abt Nya* she could tell me about a bag of rocks and I'd still listen
Nya: *walking by and overhearing* *blushing*
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Kai: aren't you supposed to follow the instructions?
Cole: cooking is just a bunch of suggestions that I'm not gonna listen to
Zane: I think you'll regret doing that in the future...
Kai: *looking at the batter Cole made* I'm not gonna eat that...
Cole: don't worry! I'm probably not gonna either with how much salt I just put in it!
Jay: how even??
Cole: I thought it was sugar