"when did supernatural go downhill" is the wrong question to be asking because supernatural does not exist on an XY axis where it can go 'up' or 'down' hill, it exists in a plane that extends towards and away from the audience at various times based on writing, plots, and whether or not the gay angel is there. but at no point does it move up or down hill.
Saving this for later because FUCKING KRIPKE shipped destiel and is probably the one that started it when cas became popular and ended up staying longer than they first thought
“(Dean would) be attracted to someone who walked in the door, slaughtered everybody and walked out, and then he would say, “Who’s that?””-Eric Kripke
Dean. Watching this. Amazed.-Script for Supernatural S5EP01: Sympathy For The Devil (2009))
I don't think so, I guess you haven't seen the latest J2 panels and behind the scenes interactions ''I don't care enough to add to this argument but it's hilarious watching the argument because cockles literally does have more intimate and closer moments than j2 and seeing the comparisons is hilarious''
Like I said I don't care enough to add to shit like this but I'd love to see some people do the comparisons in the reblogs on this post
Also I literally said I don't care enough to add anything so why the hell would I care enough to watch the con panels
It's why he was so ok with dying, cas' love kept him from being suicidal(like he was in 13x05) but cas' death made him willing to die at anytime, he wasn't racing to die but since he didn't have cas he wasn't scared or worried about dying because then maybe he'd get to see cas again
do you ever think about the fact that Dean's worst fear in the face of Death was having to watch Cas die and then be killed himself, but instead he had to live a worse nightmare where he had to watch Cas die and then was forced to live?
ya me neither
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Dean's love for Castiel is literally something you can chart the growth of with data points. Just using Dean's reactions after each time Castiel dies.
Season 4: oh wow he died doing the hottest thing ever ('making it up as we go.') Nice.
Season 5: (no time to react before he's back) Are you literal god??
Season 7(first time) denial, then cursing cas out for his choices (ie, choosing crowley instead of dean... Big Feelings on display)
Season 7 (about 3 seconds after the first time in season 7): I'm going to be upset about this the rest of the year, have full on nightmare ptsd from it, and project it onto every relationship and interaction in my life from now on.
Season 8: I will be so traumatized by this that the memories won't even form properly and I won't even be able to SPEAK ABOUT IT AT ALL. Period.
Season 9: only about 6 seconds before he's back, but still a significant amount of wailing his name.
Season 12: depression, rage, eventual suicide
Season 15: Sobbing hysterically. Not even caring that Sam is calling because everyone is dead. Not giving a fuck about any other actual thing in the rest of the world no matter the stakes. Followed by:
'Castiel wants me to live, and I suppose I've internalized the message that I am not a terrible, unworthy person, so I will live and not kill myself so that his sacrifice means something. J/k thank god a fucking rebar. Don't call an ambulance. Don't bring me back. Please let me die.'
We need a chart. I need a chart.
And except for rich and Rob and bed edlund and the official youtube channel, and jensen also said that the confession was clear text for Castiel confessing his romantic feelings, and Dean is super depressed and commits suicide but then is all happy and hopeful the second he gets Cas back in Canon in s13, it was literally shown in the show that Dean doesn't want to be alive when Cas is dead, and the fact that they literally gave Cain a wife just to parallel Cas while Dean paralleled Cain, it was clear in the show just the cw wouldn't allow it to be explicit and if you can't see that then you're just too close minded to
The Destiel phenomenon truly makes me want to deeply delve in spn fandom psyche and how so many people believe in something, that isn't supported by canon material.
Dean Winchester isn't interested in having a romantic partner. He canonically only stays with one partner ( Lisa) for a year, and that's only because Sam is gone and he is the one who asks him to lead a normal life.
Happy birthday Dean! May you spend your day being lazy in bed with your husband
Literally this, people don't see destiel in the show because the characters aren't "gay enough" in their minds for them to get together even though there's a shit ton of evidence in the goddamn show that shows that Dean and Cas are into eachother and behave and are treated as a romantic couple, but since they can be seen as macho heterosexuals those people just ignore the evidence that's in the shows Canon
Not to be dramatic, but I believe that part of the reason why destiel has persisted far beyond the end of the show, is because every destiel shipper is partaking in an act of rebellion against the homophobic powers of the world.
Over an entire 15 years, an entire tv network fought against the allegations of gay. Directors fought against the gay. Actors fought against the gay. It still wasn't enough. Destiel went canon. However we won the battle but not the war. The fact that even 5 years after, actors and fans still continue to deny the existence of gay is part of the reason why destiel will not cease.
Destiel was never just about two men kissing. It was never about the denial of male friendships. Destiel embodies the fight for queer representation on screen and in our society. Destiel is the illumination of actual queer existence that isn't just a crude caricature of what people expect queer people to be like.
To validate destiel is to say that LGBTQIA+ people could be anyone at anytime. Queer existence is a red-blooded american man. Queer existence is a genderless angel. Queer love exists outside the boundary formed by heterosexual people.
Supernatural has a permanent spot on my body and I still feel like this, supernatural has the ability to not be the best at times but still be the greatest show ever
Good or bad, there will always be supernatural babeyy
Don't forget I'm pretty sure lou is also the reason buck and Tommy weren't very touchy because Lou didn't want to do those scenes because they "don't further the plot"
Bt fans saying to deport Ryan Guzman-😀what the flippidy fuck-
Oh damn I been knew y’all are racist but y’all really gave up all pretence of pretending you’re not at this point huh
I really wish I could say I’m surprised
Yea, especially since they only care about what jensen says and not how he acts or anything, cause jensen will seem like he supports destiel but never says it because if he says it, it could mess with his work opportunities and he could get death threats, and he's smart enough to know that and be careful not to say something that could cause it, I just hope he feels OK with confirming destiel on the supernatural podcast because that seems like the most likely place for him to confirm it
No, an actor does not owe anyone to say anything when it comes to a character they play but also cmon man, it has been 15 fucking years, you can literally put stop to this once and for all.