Joker would 100% do it for the vine
if jason todd were to start going round with a petition to make batman kill the joker i think he would have all of gotham on board within three days, and i also believe theres a 99% chance the joker would sign this petition himself, just to see how batman responds
jason: technically this isn't murder it's assisted suicide
bruce: what the fuck is happening right now why are you two together
jason: morbid curiosity
joker: just wanted to see what you'd do
the thing is, if Bruce plays his cards right, he could get all of his kids in leadership and/or hereditary positions in all of the major superhero, vigilante, and business organizations in the world.
Damian - Head of the League of Assassins, hereditary title from his Mother and/or Grandfather.
Dick - Leader of the Titans, and then potentially the Justice League later. Head of WE’s fundraising arm briefly. Possible option for a politically appointed GCPD or BHPD position.
Tim - takes over as Leader of the Titans when Dick moves into the JL. Head of Wayne Industries/Enterprises/Etc. Influential person to Kon-El and Lex Luthor, by proxy.
Jason - Leader of various Gotham underground organizations, crime syndicates, anywhere in the Underworld that’s useful to Bruce.
This is actually what the high guard has been doing for the 50 cycles I know this. And Starscream hates losing, but Soundwave can’t be bothered to do anything about that 😒 he’s like a wine mom rn, the way he’s babysitting the whole high guard too. He doesn't really play it with them cuz . It’ll be too easy with his ability, and he’d have to keep hearing everyone argue about who is what
Catwoman: Nightwing, how's my first Robin doing? Aww, you still got that cute face. Or should I say handsome, look at that smile.
Nightwing (smiling): Aww, thank you.
Catwoman: Here you go.
Catwoman handed Nightwing fresh brownies. He took them happily. Catwoman then walked over to Red Hood.
Catwoman: Red Hood.
Red Hood (nod): Selina.
Catwoman: Are you better mentally or are you going to shoot me?
Red Hood (shrugging): Don't want to waste the bullets.
Catwoman (patting the man on the shoulder): Same bratty charm. I missed that, glad to have you back.
Catwoman walked off to head back to Batman. Red Hood looked at Nightwing eating the brownies and snatched one away.
Nightwing: Hey! You can't eat any, you have a helmet on.
Red Hood: I'm saving it for later.
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I think there should be more fics about Gothamites talking back to the bats - specifically Batman
“Get inside” “you’re not my dad”
“Stop trying to fight the joker, PLEASE” “fuck you, I do what I want”
“The streets aren’t safe tonight” “bro it’s Thursday, one of chillest days. Please shut the fuck up about telling me about gotham like I wasn’t born here thanks”
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Merry Chrimah everyone!!
i want to read about jason todd of the arrowverse. I want to read about him crawling out of his grave to the world where batman, bruce, his dad, is not going to be in soon.
i want him waking up after the dip in a lazarus pit, feeling bloodlust[in arrowverse it is canon, thank you very much], meeting ra’s and nyssa and then talia. still getting trained by terrible monsters, people, who enjoy sufferings of others too much.
i want him to finish his training with all-caste, only to realize league is in shambles, some al sah-him and then al sa-her calling themselves next ra’s al ghul, with talia being banished.
i want to read about jason todd finding out his dad at whom he was so so pissed is missing. have been missing for almost two years.
and gotham.
gotham is in fucking ruins, because there's no batman, there's no robin. there’s no alfred.
now there’s only him and barely there rumours of nightwing, protecting new york.
jason takes up the mantle. he takes up the legacy. and he hates bruce for it. but gotham and her streets are his home. even if he has to fight bloodlust tooth and nail. because he can’t. he can’t simply make another bloodbath. gotham’s streets are already soaked in too much red. and there’s still a difference for him between killing joker and killing black mask.
he tries to look for bruce, managing one crazy case after another, almost drowning in the filth that flooded the streets when no one had been looking. he tries to look for dick. for brother that hated him at the beginning yet started looking out for him at the end. but he finds a teen instead. genius teen who has so much photos of him as robin, of bruce as batman, of dick as robin and nightwing. of him as red bat.
his name is tim drake, he’s skinny and has no self-preservation skills, his parents are neglectful jerks that still love their son somehow. he becomes jason’s robin. red robin. light in the dark alleyways. hope in the hearts of gothamites. torn in rogues’ plans. safe haven in jason’s life that calms his bloodlust.
batman needs robin.
red bat, too, needs one.
even if stories about them are a hoax as far as everyone believes.
they hear from nightwing. or well more like jason gets jumped and almost electrocuted by him. thank fuck for red robin, his birdarangs and bright yellow cape. dick doesn’t trust him until he sees empty coffin and dna test. jason really can’t blame him.
year after kate kane finds the cave.
now there’s batwoman. more freaks. and more whispered rumours about existence of bats and birds.
then there’re arrow and flash in his city with flying alien in blue and red with ‘s’ on her chest.
and jason realises shit is going to go down, because it’s just a begining. there's no ending in sight, no bruce in sight.
only him, dick, tim, kate. and other vigilantes who know nothing about how gotham works so they really should get the fuck out of here right this second.
He was brought back by the Justice League, and when he finally got back to Gotham, Tim was nowhere to be found.
Tim hadn't even tried to bring him back.
In fact, Tim had abandoned the hero scene altogether.
Tim. The boy who had sworn that the only way he'd leave the caped life was if he was dead.
Dick is being tight lipped and refusing to say anything on the matter.
Damian clearly knows what's going on but, oddly, refuses to say anything either.
Oracle completely ignores Bruce when he asks, at one point just pretending like he wasn't talking at all.
Cass, however, isn't putting any effort into pretending he isn't asking and is instead completely avoiding him.
Alfred seems to be in the same boat as him, deliberately kept in the dark.
There has to be some sort of reason for it, and Bruce is certain that it's the same reason for all of the avoidance, lies, and Tim's disappearance.
So, against everyone's wishes, he investigates.
Tim isn't in the Manor. Tim isn't in any of his safehouses.
Tim is, in fact, in one of...Jason's safehouses?
After covertly watching from a distance, Bruce discovers three things.
First; while Jason does not appear to be on good terms with Tim, he does view Tim as someone under his protection.
Second; Jason must be getting feedback from Oracle, because Red Hood always finds Batman in five minutes or less when he starts a stake out on Tim.
Third; There are babies in that safehouse. Not toddlers; babies.
He saw one of them through the reinforced window, floating a good two feet off the crib before a panicked and exhausted Tim had snatched it out of the air.
Tim...what has Tim done?
Bruce had heard from Clark that Tim had tried to clone Kon, but had he actually done it?
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While raiding Ra's bases and preparing them to blow, Tim stumbled across three babies. Triplets.
Triplets with superpowers.
Triplets that he knows, beyond the shadow of a doubt, Ra's will find again even if he buries them in the Foster system.
Plus, he's heard the horror stories of vulnerable metas fed to the Foster system at a young age.
So.
Okay.
He'll raise them himself.
He's Tim Drake, the kid that blackmailed Batman into taking him on as Robin; raising a few kids can't be that hard. He'll just take care of them during the day, nap when they do, and go do hero stuff at night.
He reaches out to the one person even Ra's would never expect him to willingly work with.
He reaches out to Red Hood.
He hires Red Hood as a bodyguard. It's a purely professional relationship.
Red Hood sets him up in the best safehouse he's got; soundproof, lead-lined walls, hidden weapon caches, the works.
Dick, Damian, and Jason himself think that Tim actually did succeed in cloning Superboy and is taking responsibility for raising the kids.
Damian may not like Drake, but he's snuck into the safehouse and met the triplets, and he may or may not be a little infatuated with them. So he'll keep the secret for them.
Dick and Jason feel like Tim is taking on too many responsibilities, and think he's clearly hiding from the Supers in that safehouse.
Oracle gets her information from Cass, who is the only one who knows the full story.
Tim, meanwhile, is learning that children are exhausting, Cass is an amazing babysitter (as is Damian, but Damian if fickle and Tim has to pretend like he doesn't know when Damian is there), and hasn't had any time, at all, to go out and do heroing stuff.
He has so much fucking empathy for Anita, right now.
He's been so involved with the triplets that he's missed key events like; Bruce coming back from the timestream, Kon and Bart coming back to life, Ra's declaring Tim his One True Heir officially, and a throuple of mad scientist super villains dropping onto the scene and making a stir.
Or; Danny, Dani, and Dan got caught by the GIW, forced into their cores, and then stolen by a league of assassins, of all things. So naturally they put a rush on getting out of their cores, because, see, assassins, but they came out way before they had enough ecto to form their actual ages. They came out as babies. Babies that were promptly treated as treasures by some creepy cult assassin man. Babies that were stolen by that assassin man's...rival? Detective? They weren't sure. But they were taken by him. And now they're being raised in a very ecto-rich city, just waiting for the day they have enough ecto to go back to their normal age. Meanwhile, Jack, Vlad, and Maddie Fenton are some of the scariest supervillains the Justice League has ever faced, and no one knows why they keep targeting US government facilities. Bart, Kon, and Cassie are lowkey convinced that Tim is dead. Constantine has a new assistant who forced herself into the position, and Jasmine Fenton is deadset on learning everything he knows to find her siblings. Booster Gold has run into two new time police, but he has no idea which future they work for; a goth teenager and a techy nerdy teenagers that wear clock amulets and keep disappearing into green portals.
Tim, making chicken and dumpling soup, dropping a dumpling on the floor: This is sadder than the time I lost my spleen.
Bruce, choking on his coffee: Excuse me?
jason, watching tim cook: okay so he got the cookies
jason: grinding them okay, so like, cookie dough - oh adding milk, flour- okay, okay
jason: pancakes. cool, cookie panc- why are you baking them,
jason: WHY IS HE GRINDNING THEM UP AGAI- milk, flour- WHAT
jason: bro? whyd you
jason: whyd you do that??? why did you. make a pancake and made a pancake from a pan- waht??
jason: why did you square root a pancake???