I Have A REALLY Big Soft Spot For The Trope When Character A Sees Good Sides In Character B Even When
i have a REALLY big soft spot for the trope when character A sees good sides in character B even when nobody else does
and it’s so kyman like. really.
and i’m really sorry for this post ‘cause it’s very messy and i’m not good with words but i have so many thoughts about this–
when kyle starts to see some good sides of eric cartman it confuses him so much because he physically can’t believe cartman can have something nice deep inside. like, kyle sees how cartman suddenly cares a lot about cats and can defend them even when he won’t get any profit from that. or how sometimes cartman actually does good things and nobody seems to notice that? like in s10e2 “smug alert” when cartman risks himself to save kyle. i strongly hc that kyle learns about it from butters about a month after this all happened and he’s so shocked by that ‘cause he can’t even explain to himself why cartman would do that. and he’s starting to see more and more remotely positive things about cartman (especially since cartman’s taking his medication) and it surprises him how nobody ever praises him for that. or for anything, actually. it’s like they refuse to admit that cartman can be, well, not a devil himself.
and kyle’s starting to overthink it, so he goes to stan and starts asking him about cartman, about his personality and his good traits, and how nobody notices them, but stan doesn’t even listen. he just laughs and says that anything “good” cartman does he does for his own benefit and that he always has ulterior motives. and kyle feels this unfairness because yes, he agrees, cartman’s an asshole and it’s natural that all his friends hate him but HEY everyone deserves to be judged fairly. and as far as he can see – people don’t even try to give him a second chance. and, moreover, what’s worse – cartman doesn’t give himself second chance either.
i mean, actually, if you think about it a bit, you can notice how cartman never denies that he’s a shitty person. he knows he’s terrible, he knows he’s hated by most of the people he has met, and he knows that nobody expects anything good from him. so he doesn’t expect anything good from himself either. he just goes along with everyone’s judgement like “yep. i do not deserve good treatment because i do terrible things and hurt people all the time”. he can be dramatic and self-defensive sometimes, but actually you can see how he actually doesn’t believe in the second chance for himself.
and it confuses kyle. so much. and he really decides that it’s his new mission to prove cartman he can change and he can deserve second chance and good attitude from others. because what? because kyle just loves two things: saving and helping those in need (especially when it’s cartman) and proving other people wrong.
so, yep, it’s basically an au where as time passes children in south park start avoiding cartman because they’ve had enough of him and they’re really sick of his terrible personality. they don’t purposefully ignore him, just pay much less attention, and cartman (who has started to take medication that helps him with his mental state) tries to fight it at first and somehow accidentally hurts (not physically) stan and some other kids reaaaally bad while this, so eventually he just accepts that he’s not gonna be a part of friends group anymore. and he admits that, well, he saw it coming. his meds make him much calmer and melancholic, so he doesn’t even make a scene. he just sits at his house more and more often, skipping school to avoid his classmates. and while stan and kenny get over losing their close friend, kyle can’t. he grew closer to cartman because he really wants to save him. and – to his own surprise – he doesn’t feel like cartman deserves this loneliness.
and, well, sometimes stan and kyle have this kind of dialogue, when kyle (unsuccessfully) tries to change stan’s opinion on cartman.
stan: Dude, Cartman can’t go, he’ll ruin the whole party! Nobody will come if he’s there!
kyle: Well, it’s just… I know he’s an asshole and we hate him but don’t you think it’s a little too… harsh?
stan: “Harsh”? Kyle, we’re talking about Eric Cartman.
kyle: I know! It’s just… everyone will come, we can’t just ignore him, can we?
stan: We totally can. Remember how many times he spoiled parties just because he got bored?
kyle: Uh… You’re right… Sorry, I was just a bit… confused, I guess.
stan: That’s fine, dude. I’m always here to remind you of how much of a prick he is.
kyle: Huh, thanks…
and he realises that he doesn’t hate cartman as much as he did. because, really, kyle’s first reaction to seeing a person getting so much hatred and contempt is being defensive and trying to protect that person. and he feels, like, really bad for cartman, so he goes to his place to hang out together. and it’s like, well:
kyle: Don’t you feel bad when everyone there are having fun without you?
cartman: Yeah, it kinda sucks but it’s not like I can do something about it.
kyle: So what? You’re just gonna stay at home for months talking to nobody but me and Butters?
cartman: That was my plan, right. It’s not that bad anyway.
kyle: Two days ago you said you can’t spend too much time with me or you “get infected with jewishness”.
cartman: I became immune to it.
kyle: *laughs* Well, it’s not like I mind it too much as well.
cartman: You know, that’s the part that bothers me.
kyle: Huh?
cartman: Why are you here, spending you weekend with me instead of helping Stan with his party?
kyle, shrugging: Not really into parties. Besides, I didn’t expect it but you’re not the worst company, you know.
cartman: Oh, come on.
kyle: What?
cartman: Stop making fake compliments to make me feel better, jew.
kyle: What do you mean “fake”?
cartman: I know you’re only doing this because you don’t want me to be alone.
kyle: What?
cartman: Well, you know, your terrible saviour complex? When you see a pathetic lonely person and you just have to come and save him so you can feel better about yourself and feed your ego?
kyle: What the fuck are you even talking about?? Do you really think I’m here only because I pity you?
cartman: Why else would you be here?
kyle: Oh my god, can’t believe I actually thought we were getting along while you just assumed I was having ulterior motives!
cartman: So you claim you wasn’t and it was all sincere?
kyle, offended: Yes!!
cartman: …Nah. Unconvincing, Kahl, work on your acting skills, would ya?
kyle: You know what? Fuck you. I just… I can’t even…
cartman: Oh, finally, good ol’ Kahl is back here.
kyle, slamming the door on his way out: UGH.
and so kyle leaves and ofc he’s irritated and annoyed and angry, but the thing that bothers him so much is that cartman didn’t seem to actually believe someone would really hang out with him now without having ulterior motives. and it warms kyle’s heart and it starts over again and again – kyle getting closer to cartman and realising how lonely he really is all the time.
and, well. he ends up catching himself defending cartman in front of their classmates and choosing him over them. and then, you know, a typical slowburn fanfic for 100k words :D
so, yeah, i don’t know if someone will actually read it until the end, but, uh, i love this scenario when eric actually becomes a better person just for kyle – because kyle is (surprisingly) the only one to even believe that cartman can be better. and eric appreciates that.
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shout out to sp fandom cuz i really think we underestimate how terribly wasted heidi turner’s potential is. i mean. the girl literally dated eric cartman i can’t believe matt&tray really just ignored possible funny scenes about their post-breakup lives?? like?? it’s such a big field for jokes and plots?? her losing weight or her and cartman being passively aggressive to each other every time they have to talk?? or her being hated by the rest of the girls in the class? i’m not talking anout making her a major character, but just one episode about her future after that one arc in s21 would be really nice :( it’s so sad for me to see how she’s absolutely forgotten by everyone
also i strongly headcanon heidi as a lesbian who realised her orientation after ending her relationship with cartman and just IMAGINE how shocked he’d be when he realised the only girl who actually liked him turned out to be a lesbian after dating him. that’s freaking hilarious
damn we really need more episodes about girls cuz they’re always absolutely wonderful like am i really the only one who LOVES s23e7 (the girls board club part!!!!!) or s17e10? doubt it
heyyyy !!! i saw a person asking me about my other sp otps (yep thats surprising but kyman is not my only pairing hehe) sooo ive done this
btw i absolutely can’t draw so i’m sorry for how ugly it may look
i also love stenny, clybe, bebe/red, steek, kytters, clenny and staig a lot!!!
also this kinda looks like a template so i’ll leave it here under the cut
and aww @bloogers-boogers thanks a lot for asking!!!!! also wanted to say that your choice of otps is sooooo great like rlly i dont see enough ppl liking ships like jimthan or kenman!! and our taste is a bit similar because YEPPP KYMAN CANDY AND JIMTHAN SHARING (almost) THE SAME DYNAMIC IS SO TRUE!!!
@bloogers-boogers I CRIED I LOVE IT EVERY TIME WHEN U REBLOG ME I JUST 😭😭😭😭🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲 THANKS A LOT MKZNXKXNXKXHSJXN
okay this might seem like a lil bit controversial topic but please imagine tfbw but if cartman knew what fancervice and queerbait meant. like. are you really telling me he wouldn’t use it to get more fans and attention and money? please. so i strongly believe he’d make kyle participate in this shit with him to get more profit, and when kyle found out about new romantic-ish scenes between human kite and racoon that cartman had just written into the script for human kite’s movie… kyle’d get completely furious so he went to cartman’s basement and tried to make a scene.
(also i know i can’t call super craig a side character but i believe kyle actually thinks that the main characters are the racoon and human kite. no offense to craig tho. oh and just in case: i do not support queerbaiting!!)
k: Fatass!
c: What are you doing here? You’re supposed to be at home reading your script!
k: I did read the script! And what the hell are all those scenes you’ve added? They make no sense!
c: Do not question my narrator’s talent, jew. I’m the one who’s in charge of writing, your task is to memorise it and worship me for all my hard work.
k: Really? Oh, really? “Hard work”, you say? What is this fucking moment, you fat piece of shit?
c: Which one, Kahl? Please, elaborate.
k: “The Racoon is on the verge of death, fighting for every breath, so Human Kite heroically decides to give him mouth-to-mouth. The camera switches to the reaction of other Friends, but loud sounds of CPR can be heard behind the scenes”.
c: Pretty dramatic, huh? I really outdid myself, didn’t I?
k: The whole new script is full of this shit! What’s the matter, Cartman?
c: You know, just decided to make your movie more inclusive and… spicy. Are you against it?
k: Yes! Yes, I am against it, I don’t want to participate in this! There are so many actually homosexual people and by doing this you erase them. That is wrong, unethical and also it’s freaking gay!
c: A-huh. So did I get it correctly, Kahl, that you don’t want to make our characters closer ‘cause that is in your opinion, and I quote, “gay”? What are you, homophobic?
k: Knock it off! Stop twisting my words, that is not what I said!
c: Then I see no reasons to reject my offer, Kyle.
k: It’s just so inappropriate and wrong!
c: What’s wrong about two male characters being close and emotionally attached to each other?
k: Everything! If it’s me and you – everything is wrong! Where’s the catch, Fatass? I will not believe for a single minute that you’re doing it for inclusion of minorities.
c: …Well, okay. I guess… I guess it is time for you to learn this.
k: Learn what? What are you talking about, Cartman?
c: Have you ever heard the word “queerbaiting”, Kyle?
k: Uh… no. What’s that?
c: Let me start with another question. Who do you think is the most popular character in Racoon and Friends?
k: Um-m-m… I don’t know, probably you?
c: Wrong! It’s not me, Kahl. And wipe that smirk off your face, ‘cause it’s not you either.
k: Then who?
c: Super Craig.
k: What? This can’t be… You’re the main character, he can’t be more popular than you or me! It makes no sense!
c: That’s what I thought! When I first saw the character popularity rank I started thinking… Where was my mistake? How is it possible for a side character like Super Craig to be more popular than me and you? Is it his character design? His backstory? His role in the plot? I was seeking for answers for hours until I finally realised…
k: Realised what? Come on, stop wasting my time!
c: Patience, Kyle, patience. It’s the most important trait for a superhero. So, let me continue. The main reason of popularity when it comes to Netflix… The reason why everyone loves Super Craig so much… The gayness, Kyle.
k: …Huh?
c: That’s right, you heard it correctly. The gayness. Homosexual orientation immediately makes a male character more attractive to fans.
k: …That’s stupid.
c: No, Kahl! There can be no mistake! I looked through the popularity rate of Freedom Pals and guess who the most favorite is there?
k: No way…
c: Yes way, Kahl! It’s fucking Wonder Tweek! The one with the most lousy backstory I’ve ever seen! The fans are completely in love with his cute little dramatic breakup with his boyfriend. Can you imagine it?!
k: Wow… That’s…
c: I understand how shocked you are now, but that’s not the end. Then I’ve heard the term “queerbaiting” and that is so goddamn genius, man, you’ll just love it! It’s when two dudes, who are not directly said to be homosexuals, show some gay hints here and there.
k: So?..
c: Don’t you get it, Kyle? It’s just hints! You don’t have to *actually* be gay, the fans will just fill the blanks themselves! It saves a lot of troubles with homophobes and laws in foreign countries, but you can still make money on gay jokes! That’s sweet, dude!
k: Wait, and do you expect people to actually buy it?
c: …Who are the most popular rivals in DC?
k: Batman and Joker?
c: Who are the most popular characters themselves?
k: …Batman and Joker. Dude… what the fuck?…
c: See? Told you!
k: So you want us to be gay so we become the most liked ones?
c: Yes, if you put it simple.
k: That’s… kind of messed up.
c: Oh my god, we won’t be *really* gay. Just… hints or something.
k: O-okay… Just to be clear: there won’t be any weird moments we have to actually take part in, will there?
c: What do you mean?
k: Like… um… I don’t know, some too-gay shit like holding hands or really kissing?
c: I will hope so. Believe me, Kahl, I like it no more than you do.
k: Well… Are you sure they’ll all like it?
c: Totally!
k: Oh, god, I feel like there is some kind of a trap, but…
c: Think about money, Kyle. The large, unthinkable pile of money and fame for just small scenes with some remotely gay-ish dialogues. That thought must calm your little jewish soul.
k: …Just so you know, I still fucking hate you. And I’m doing it only because I don’t think it’s right for a side character to be more popular than the main ones.
c: Whatever makes you sleep at night, Kyle. Whatever makes you sleep at night…
A bunch of kymans before my brain gets fried up
also can we take a moment to appreciate stan marsh canonically being a fan of spiderverse
Old man yaoi this old man yaoi that wheres the actual old man yaoi
it’s not like i’m a cartman apologist but every time i see people genuinely hating this boy i want to write a MASSIVE essay explaining why he is the way he is
guys i just walked into my room and saw this…….. do you think it’s a date?
guess who has kyman plushies now
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