i refuse to use the tags/terms ‘apologist’ or ‘sympathiser’ because no one knows what the fuck they even mean
Anytime someone dehumanises c!dream I love him even more out of spite
I don’t think anyone has to like c!dream. If hating him is how you enjoy the story-go for it! If the prison arc was cathartic for you, I’m glad the story could provide that.
But do not insult others for having a different view of the characters, and for the love of god don’t say that the torture and abuse he experienced was justified. Or at the very least, tag your crit.
With C!dream claiming to be a god, there are three options.
He’s telling the truth (which is a definite possibly when taking into account c!dreamxd), he’s lying, or he genuinely believes it.
If he’s lying, he was quite literally dehumanising himself. He was trying to make other people see him as a just a threat, instead of a person. It would also serve as a way to purge himself of his attachments, after all, what deity cares about mere humans?
But if he genuinely believed it, that is a delusion of grandeur, and should be taken seriously. It can be a feature of mania or psychosis, and can be extremely dangerous. (C!dream does not necessarily have either of these conditions, but it is concerning nonetheless)
If I see one more person say that c!dream was self harming for attention I am going to go apeshit
thinking abt c!dream avoiding one half of the cell, and staying close to the lava. c!techno finally asks him what’s wrong, and him haltingly explaining that c!quackity held his head underwater whenever he got bored of using weapons, and now he can’t go near the sink.
Wedding Waltz commission :-)
Special thanks to @squimp who helped me SO much with designing Garak’s outfit!!!
I’ve seen a lot of people say that c!dreams behaviour in pandoras vault is him ‘manipulating’ everyone, and whilst I personally don’t think so, I wouldn’t care if he was. Even if he is altering his demeanour to illicit sympathy- it’s for the goal of avoiding torture? So many of c!dreams actions are unjustifiable, but that is most certainly not one of them.
If during exile, c!tommy had been lying to his visitors or to c!dream with the end goal of securing his freedom, that would be 100% understandable. If his suicidal ideation had been an act to bring about the end of exile, these actions would have been seen as clever, as a smart tactic c!tommy was utilising. Most people would see this manipulation as a way of escaping his abuser.
In addition, if someone is self harming ‘for attention’, it still counts as self harm and needs to be taken seriously. The fact that c!dream is in such a desperate situation that he has committed suicide multiple times is extremely worrying-regardless of any other outcomes he is attempting to achieve.
Being abusive and being mentally ill are not mutually exclusive
On the whole who’s older, c!wilbur or c!techno debate I may have overthought my answer...
I love the idea of c!techno not knowing his birthday and choosing c!wilburs’ as his own? And this of course leads to many wonderful angst opportunities! But then I got to thinking.. how would c!techno know his birthday?? HOW DO PIGLINS TELL TIME??!!
There is no day/night cycle in the nether! Clocks don’t work!! There aren’t even seasons! But then I decided to just think up some cool piglin cultural practices that might work.
First of all piglins don’t have any sort of sleep schedule. They sleep when they want! The only real requirement is making sure that there are always some people awake and on lookout duty, and certain events might mean that an entire community is awake all at one time, but other then that it’s a case by case basis.
C!techno still has the strangest sleeping habits (at least to the overworlders around him). Whenever someone mentions their sleep schedule around him he gets incredibly confused. He can fall asleep whenever he needs to, in any light conditions (This comes in handy when he’s in pandoras vault). He may function similarly to someone with non-24-hour sleep-wake-disorder but I need to do more research before making that comparison! (Although that would certainly make an interesting point about the concept of the social model of disability? I may make a post in the future!).
How would piglins determine age? My idea around this is that age is determined by milestones. There are words in the piglin language that mean ‘walking age’ or ‘talking age’, and are used to refer to a child once they’ve reached that milestone. This may also mean that their society has a greater understanding of how different people mature at different speeds, that two children might meet their early milestones all at the same time, that may change as they get older, or vice versa. In the case of certain disabilities it would be looked at on a case by case basis, and if a certain milestone is skipped that wouldn’t be an issue! I imagine that ‘tusking age’ would be the most important, and correspond with the overworlds’ idea of adulthood. There are so many cool add ons that could be incorporated into this concept! For example ‘teaching age’ could be bestowed upon a piglin once they’ve grown to old to participate in combat, and instead act as teachers and community leaders.
When c!techno is asked his age, and then responds with a piglin word, everyone is incredibly confused. C!techno is then absolutely baffled by the overworld concept of age. He asks if these numbers always correspond to someones maturity, and is further confused when told no. Because if that was the case then why is so much importance placed on them! Mind you, he’s spent a while around an immortal so that definitely didn’t help his understanding.
If anyone has any additions to this I’d love to hear them! Worldbuilding is so much fun. I also hope there aren’t any glaring errors in this, but please let me know if there are
C!dream antis will really argue that torture is fine as long as the character has done enough things wrong, and then call us the abuse apologists
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