Sam And Jess Took A Creative Writing Class For Credit And Jessica Wrote Horror And Sam Corrected All

had an absolute feral reaction to the idea of jess discovering that sam has very little experience of basic things.

ex: sam has never had homemade cookies, he’s never had a casserole, he’s never actually watched an entire tv show, he has never owned a bike, he’s never been in an indoor pool, he’s never eaten peaches that didn’t come from a can, etc and at first she just thinks sam had a rough childhood. it’s not that uncommon or weird for kids to live in household under poverty line and miss on some stuff.

but then she slowly realises it goes deeper than when she takes him to meet her parents for the first time and her dad tries to play alpha male by egging sam on when he mentions his father was a marine and they all watch, baffled, as sam empties the clip of mr moore’s alpha male handgun into the dead center of a paper target. and jess stars to wonder what type of life sam winchester might have lead, one where he’s never owned two pairs of shoes but where he keeps a silver knife in his bedside table.

OH MY GOODNESS THAT POOR LITTLE BABY BETTER NOT DIE I WILL CRY, TINY ONES ARE MY WEAKNESS

I made it to About a Boy! I love teen Dean’s actor, he’s amazing

THE JIMMY VOICE OH HOW I’VE MISSED IT

I own the official deck 💪💪💪💪

naomi from the official tarot card deck

if jack kline. when he uhhh. erm. when he? yes or no.

undoubtedly

listen i get your frustration about how people treat jack, i hate when people reducd him down to just a destiel baby too. but as an autistic person myself, i really disagree with you calling people that like baby jack ableist. he's canonically 4 years old and had to have his childhood basically stripped away from him due to how dangerous it was. i don't think people enjoying the thought of him getting to have that chance at a happy childhood is as cruel and evil as you seem to think.

it’s actually a little more complicated than i sometimes make it out to be, but let me square some misconceptions away first before I get to that.

1) Jack’s childhood was never stolen or stripped from him; he specifically chose to be a teenager/young adult because of Kelly’s warnings, and he is narratively treated like one from there on out.

2) there’s never been any canon instance of him wishing he was a child or had a normal childhood—in fact, whenever people do regard or treat him as one, it’s only ever been shown to upset him. there’s also the fact that Jack literally says out loud that he isn’t a child, so unfortunately “giving Jack a chance at something he never wanted” isn’t a good enough justification for me.

The things he has expressed, however, are—

wanting to be a “normal” human teenager and experience human teenager things, like falling in love and getting a parking ticket (also read: not wanting to be a messiah figure that’s always being chased and manipulated)

wanting to be strong and capable enough to protect his loved ones, hating when he isn’t strong or capable enough, and hating when others perceive him as weak, defenseless and less capable (also read: he hates being infantilized)

frustration that his limited experience and naïveté give him less self control over his powers, making him more dangerous and more vulnerable for manipulation

wanting autonomy over himself; his identity, his chosen family, his decisions, his powers, etc. pretty much goes hand in hand with wanting to be more capable. Jack’s character is literally built around him struggling to have autonomy, and as cold as it sounds, children just don’t have that. so, to actively and repeatedly take away something he’s had to fight for just sits so wrongly with me.

3) While his canon chronological age is two, Jack is also canonically developed to being either 18 or in his early twenties (ie the “I’m 22” line). He’s also still treated like a young adult and continuously placed in adult situations: being tortured, dying, expressing both romantic and sexual interest in Harper (and her reciprocating), being called hot by the girl in Gimme Shelter. In various scripts he’s referred to as a teenager, a young man, an adolescent, etc. “Kid” is a very broad term for anyone that’s younger, also, so please don’t try to act like that means he’s a real baby.

It’s basically the same situation as other born-adult characters like Vision or Superboy; Vision is three years old and already a husband/father with Wanda. Superboy is only sixteen weeks old throughout the first season of Young Justice and has a girlfriend, Megan.

4) This is the complicated part of it. It might shock you to learn, but I’m actually fully aware that nobody who likes baby!jack is a raging ableist with malicious intent towards autistic people. Because Jack wasn’t intentionally written to be autistic, and only coded via the traits and mannerisms given to him (topped with AlCal’s own portrayal + eventual confirmation of the headcanon), the idea of making a chronological two year old adult an actual two year old was fairly harmless, and like you said, done with the intent to give him a chance at a happy childhood.

However, since he was confirmed as autistic, there have been plenty of other blogs pointing out that turning him into a child or continuously insisting that he canonically is—especially since he’s intended to be an adult—is basically teetering on the edge of accidental ableism. I don’t know about you, but insisting that a grown adult with autistic traits is “mentally a toddler” is extremely gross, and I don’t want to be in even the slightest vicinity of anyone who believes it. The other problem I have with it is that all of these blogs were basically ignored. I’ve been ignored. I’ve gotten more engagement on my 1000th day destiel shitpost than most of my posts about Jack’s infantilization, and that speaks very loud to me about how much the fandom really cares.

There’s also the fact that baby!jack is basically the only content ever made around him, and even in adult jack content, all of his personality and growth is still basically so watered down and infantilized and far removed from actual canon that it should be considered an OC at this point. it’s an extremely frustrating experience for people who are actually interested in his character, bc we basically have nothing to engage with in the fandom now—which has also been pointed out out time and time again, only to be ignored time and time again, because again, the fandom doesn’t care, especially since it’s such easy canon fodder for hashtag domestic destiel.

I don’t think baby!jack fans are cruel or evil for enjoying it, but I do think it’s worth calling out that they repeatedly ignore any criticisms of it, whether that’s the underlying ableism, the general frustration with his character treatment, or the fact that the content they engage in actively takes away some pretty meaningful representation from autistic people. Honestly, the worst of it is when they literally accuse people in the fandom of pedophilia (I am unfortunately not joking about this) for finding a grown man attractive, because they’re so attached to the notion that he’s actually a baby and, yet again, actively ignore anything that says otherwise.

Tell me why scream is just a bunch of people slashing up other people in a mask and costume yet i deem it a comfort series

Do you think that because Jack is Lucifer’s son, he was able to sense that Sam is his true vessel and that’s why he called him father? Sam probably felt familiar to him, like how dogs can always recognize their moms, even after months/years without them. I’m sure that’s why he gravitated towards Sam physically more than anything, even if he tries to copy Dean. Jack is trying to be good, so of course he’d copy the Michael Sword rather than Lucifer’s true vessel.

it's literally so insane to me like jack is introduced calling sam father. he's the son of lucifer. his relationship with sam is directly tied with fatherhood. he's like sam in all the ways that put him at odds with his father figures growing up and throughout the show. he specifically chooses be his caretaker on the basis of trying to do better by child who is like him. jack's textually referred to as sam's son by other people and by himself and by jack and by his actual father lucifer and they have a confrontation about it literally part of the plot hinges on the conflict between jack being sam's son and lucifer's (sam's tormentor) son. like. being jack's father has narrative significance to sam. if anything the show refering to dean as jack's dad is a favor to him as the ProtagonistTM. we DID watch a completely different show godbless

every time you say jack has the mental age of a baby or a toddler an autistic person spawns in your house to kill you. it’s me. I’m in here and I have something sharp.